Athletic correctness

[osorojo]

I overheard this statement at an away game at Colgate in the mid-60's - between periods in a walkway leading to the dressing room between and beneath fans' bleachers. Cornell was clobbering Colgate. Colgate coach to Harkness: "Hey, ease up a little." Harkness: "Go **** yourself!" I miss Cornell winning hockey games and the lively spirit [versus dissertations] which accompanied these wins.

[Beeeej]

It's a cute anecdote, but I sure hope you're not suggesting that Cornell's more recent relative lack of national success is largely or even partly due to Schafer's unwillingness to tell Don Vaughan and his peers to go **** themselves.

[Dafatone]

It's a cute anecdote, but I sure hope you're not suggesting that Cornell's more recent relative lack of national success is largely or even partly due to Schafer's unwillingness to tell Don Vaughan and his peers to go **** themselves.

We also don't know how many coaches Schafer is or isn't telling to go **** themselves.

[George64]

I overheard this statement at an away game at Colgate in the mid-60's - between periods in a walkway leading to the dressing room between and beneath fans' bleachers. Cornell was clobbering Colgate. Colgate coach to Harkness: "Hey, ease up a little." Harkness: "Go **** yourself!" I miss Cornell winning hockey games and the lively spirit [versus dissertations] which accompanied these wins.

Harkness at a freshman game, "Johnny [Hughes] why the **** don't you skate!"  It obviously had an impact, as he became one of the all-time greats.  RIP, Johnny.
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[osorojo]

Intensity, not decorum, is the soul of sports.

[Trotsky]

Intensity, not decorum, is the soul of sports.

"Everyone has an aesthetic until they get punched in the mouth."

[jtwcornell91]

It's a cute anecdote, but I sure hope you're not suggesting that Cornell's more recent relative lack of national success is largely or even partly due to Schafer's unwillingness to tell Don Vaughan and his peers to go **** themselves.

We also don't know how many coaches Schafer is or isn't telling to go **** themselves.

Although I wouldn't expect Vaughan to make that list.

[osorojo]

I'm not promoting vulgarity - or blasphemy - only a winning spirit.

[BearLover]

I'm not promoting vulgarity - or blasphemy - only a winning spirit.

What is your proof that the Cornell hockey program is lacking "intensity" and a "winning spirit"?

[osorojo]

"Promoting a winning spirit" is hardly denying such spirit exists. Quite the contrary. I began attending C.U. hockey games when the rink opened, watched C.U. battle Susquehanna, traveled to exotic venues like Princeton and Brown to attend games. Now I live over 1,000 miles from the nearest Cornell hockey game and seldom get to see a live game, That is the pitiful wisp of validity to your critique.

[BearLover]

What on earth makes you suspect Cornell Hockey lacks a winning spirit? "Promoting a winning spirit" is hardly denying such spirit exists. Quite the contrary.

In your first post you said: "I miss Cornell winning hockey games and the lively spirit [versus dissertations] which accompanied these wins." Then you said you were "promoting a winning spirit," which implies a winning spirit is lacking.

So then what is your point exactly?

[French Rage]

Had osorojo ever had a point?

[osorojo]

I quickly tire of everyman attempts to parse causes for wins and losses - bag the dissertations on and dissections of wins and losses - even if you are/were a science or math major. You sure as hell weren't a student of logic or language... [e.g] Me: "I support free speech." You: "That implies free speech is lacking."

[Trotsky]

I quickly tire

Not every race is for every runner.

Your incapacity isn't binding on others.

[BearLover]

I quickly tire of everyman attempts to parse causes for wins and losses - bag the dissertations on and dissections of wins and losses - even if you are/were a science or math major. You sure as hell weren't a student of logic or language... [e.g] Me: "I support free speech." You: "That implies free speech is lacking."

You: "I miss free speech."
Me: "So you think there is an inadequate amount of free speech? If you long for a thing, it logically follows that you believe such thing is lacking."
You: "Clearly you were not a logic or language major."