Cornell football 2022

[CAS]

Cornell is 2-10 in the Ivies the last two seasons.  Hard to be optimistic about these last 2 games. Archer has now clinched his ninth consecutive losing Ivy season

[mikers]

They need more than a few "blockers". Both lines are undersized, not strong enough and not talented enough to keep up with the other Ivy's except maybe Brown. Columbia has past them. The University needs to decide if they want to put more money to the program- fix up the stadium, get another opposite side of the field seating arrangement, hire a whole new coaching staff and recruit their butts off to convince some of the higher rated players to come to Cornell. Otherwise, it is a self fulfilling prophecy of more losing.

They have skill players, it's the rest of the team that's lacking. This QB is dynamite, but I could easily see him leaving for greener pastures.

[Swampy]

They need more than a few "blockers". Both lines are undersized, not strong enough and not talented enough to keep up with the other Ivy's except maybe Brown. Columbia has past them. The University needs to decide if they want to put more money to the program- fix up the stadium, get another opposite side of the field seating arrangement, hire a whole new coaching staff and recruit their butts off to convince some of the higher rated players to come to Cornell. Otherwise, it is a self fulfilling prophecy of more losing.

They have skill players, it's the rest of the team that's lacking. This QB is dynamite, but I could easily see him leaving for greener pastures.

What about forgetting about football and putting the savings into (both men's and women's) hockey, lacrosse, soccer, and wrestling?

[mikers]

I think they already have done that!

[rss77]

Don't think Wang is going anywhere as he has already transferred once.  He was at the Air Force Academy preseason camp and walked away.  Archer said at one of the sports luncheons last year that he is on a full ride at Cornell because he declared himself emancipated from his parents. Don't forget that Cornell was missing two out of three of their top running backs.  I think we saw today what a difference good special teams play makes.  The Penn punter got off some good boots and Cornell always seemed to be starting on their own twenty or twenty five after punts.  Compare that to Cornell's struggles on punt blocks and one imagines that Dartmouth and Columbia will be gunning for the same the next two weekends.   And one begs the questions-why so many offsides on defense this late in the season?  This was a winnable game IMO.

[CAS]

Archer is now 16-45 (26% win percentage) in the Ivies as Cornell's head coach.  Btw those 3 non-league wins this year are over teams who are a combined 5-22 this season.

[mike1960]

They need more than a few "blockers". Both lines are undersized, not strong enough and not talented enough to keep up with the other Ivy's except maybe Brown. Columbia has past them. The University needs to decide if they want to put more money to the program- fix up the stadium, get another opposite side of the field seating arrangement, hire a whole new coaching staff and recruit their butts off to convince some of the higher rated players to come to Cornell. Otherwise, it is a self fulfilling prophecy of more losing.

They have skill players, it's the rest of the team that's lacking. This QB is dynamite, but I could easily see him leaving for greener pastures.

I agree. When I'm able to see a replay of Cornell games, I often think: weight room. These guys need more beef to win at this game.

Great pictures above! I saw this on Instagram by Eldon Lindsey that's great too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkmC28UO2Z5/

[George64]

Great pictures above! I saw this on Instagram by Eldon Lindsey that's great too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkmC28UO2Z5/

I don't do instagram, so I hadn't seen Eldon Lindsey's work before.  He's truly an outstanding sports photographer.  Great photos of other Cornell athletes.
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[billhoward]

Dartmouth at Cornell, Schoellkopf Field, Saturday 1 p.m. A winnable game, as is the finale at Columbia. Unlike the Princeton, Penn games of the past two weeks.

The bottom four – sorry, the four teams competing to finish fifth – all are 1-4. Cornell can finish as good as 6-4 overall and/but the best Ivy finish is 3-4.

Other Ivy games, all Saturday. The top four (Ivy standings) play each other, ditto the bottom four:
Princeton at Yale, noon
Columbia at Brown, noon
Harvard at Penn, 1 pm

[Ken711]

Dartmouth at Cornell, Schoellkopf Field, Saturday 1 p.m. A winnable game, as is the finale at Columbia. Unlike the Princeton, Penn games of the past two weeks.

The bottom four – sorry, the four teams competing to finish fifth – all are 1-4. Cornell can finish as good as 6-4 overall and/but the best Ivy finish is 3-4.

Other Ivy games, all Saturday. The top four (Ivy standings) play each other, ditto the bottom four:
Princeton at Yale, noon
Columbia at Brown, noon
Harvard at Penn, 1 pm

So you're saying the best finish that Archer can attain in the Ivy League at this point is a losing record of 3-4 after a dozen years at the helm...lovely.

[Weder]

Not going to start a separate thread, but just noticed that the sprint football team went 1-6 this year and was shut out 4 times, including a 72-0 loss to Army. Penn is the only other Ivy that still plays sprint football. Outside of Cornell, Penn, Army and Navy, all the other schools that play sprint football look to be in Division II. (I know that the coach, Terry Cullen, has been part of the program since like the '60s and has been the head coach for 40+ years.)

[billhoward]

Cornell has found somebody from the second echelon of the league it can more than hold its own against. In the first half. First quarter, no score, Cornell has possession 10 of the 15 minutes.

Early in the second, Cornell goes up 7-0, combination of Wang passing, Wang running and Cornell (non QB) running. Dartmouth then comes back, marches up the field (or down, whichever way it is toward Schoellkopf House) and in the red zone, Dartmouth scores on a halfback option pass when, ah, Cornell has no one defending in the end zone. But the PAT kick fails (Cornell is good at other teams flubbing place kicks.) Cornell 7-6.

Late in the second, Cornell gets the ball on its 30 and four plays (including a penalty for offsides) later Wang is sacked on the 5 and shaken up. Since Cornell controls the cameras, we never saw if he walked, was helped, or carried off the field. Punting from the end zone, Cornell punts the ball all the way to the 30. Our 30, or 31, alas. Then Cornell turned on the defense: safety Brody Kidwell stuffed the Dartmouth RB for minus-five, yada yada, and on fourth and sixth, the Dartmouth pass was batted down. It was Wang who came back out, ran one play, and the clock expired. Halftime: Cornell 7, Dartmouth 6.

Third quarter, there was punchless offense for a bit: gain of 2, offsides makes it first and 15, another penalty, bad play and it's like 25 yards from the first down, which means a punt would net maybe 10 yards from where the Red started. More lively late third period: Dartmouth scores, then Davon Kiser runs back the kickoff. Score: 13-12 Cornell.

Early fourth quarter, a decent Cornell drive stalls, Cornell FB (we're good at PATs, FGs) makes it 17-13. Teams swap midfield fumbles. Cornell misses a 45-yard field goal late, Dartmouth marches, Cornell bats down 2 passes back to back but Dartmouth gets a fourth-down first down, continues to the Cornell 8, final play caught by Dartmouth just outside then end zone.

Final Cornell 17, Dartmouth 13, Cornell has its first 5-win seasons Marinaro ran for -- sorry, since 2011. On to NYC and Columbia. Meanwhile, Princeton knocked off by Yale so there's a chance of a multi-way tie for first.

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Two hours after the game, no game story from Cornell. CornellBigRed-com landing page leads with polo (at least that's the first image in the slider three of four times I loaded the page). The football page shows Cornell holding on to beat Dartmouth ... in 2006 ... a Throwback Thursday story.

Not to be snippy, Cornell is not overstaffed in sports PR athletic communications. Still, Dartmouth (which was on the road, not at home) got its story posted by 5 pm, ditto Princeton which had crushing news to tell its faithful: the first loss by its top-25 football team. Cornell fans may be happier with what will be a 6-4 or 5-5 season than Princeton which may finish with one loss.

But we have better hockey teams.

[Al DeFlorio]

Another sub-30 yard punt sets up Dartmouth for a possible late first-half score.  Some awful play-calling on last two three-and-outs.

[ugarte]

Another sub-30 yard punt sets up Dartmouth for a possible late first-half score.  Some awful play-calling on last two three-and-outs.

but a really solid defensive drive (and Dartmouth not having a kicker they trust) results in a bat-down by the nose tackle on 4th and long and then Cornell let the clock run down on offense. Goes into the half up 7-6.

Around the league, we've got upset watches going on plus another 1-4 matchup

Yale is leading Princeton 17-14
Harvard is leading Penn 17-7
Columbia was up 21-0 on Brown but it's 21-14 now

[billhoward]

Another sub-30 yard punt sets up Dartmouth for a possible late first-half score.  Some awful play-calling on last two three-and-outs.

The awful play-calling might be Cornell not wanting to pass and wound up intercepted deep in Cornell territory. But maybe knowing the alternative is more suicidal -- ponting with your heels edged up against the end of the end zone -- maybe you do put the ball in the air.