Opponents and Others, 2022-23

[RichH]

I just noticed that every conference leader is in the top 16.
I don't know if this has ever happened before.
I am pretty sure no season has ended this way for NCAA selections.

Anyone else notice a conference with only 7 teams that had 6 of them ranked in the top 20?  This is a conference that has had much trouble gaining traction in the Frozen Four since its (rather recent) inception.

Yep. It reminds me of the ACC lax league of 15-20 years ago. So much weight was put into SoS that just playing a league schedule made sure a majority of teams made the ncaas.

Notre Dame risks finishing in the top 16 with a losing record and being ineligible.

[chimpfood]

I just noticed that every conference leader is in the top 16.
I don't know if this has ever happened before.
I am pretty sure no season has ended this way for NCAA selections.

Anyone else notice a conference with only 7 teams that had 6 of them ranked in the top 20?  This is a conference that has had much trouble gaining traction in the Frozen Four since its (rather recent) inception.

Yep. It reminds me of the ACC lax league of 15-20 years ago. So much weight was put into SoS that just playing a league schedule made sure a majority of teams made the ncaas.

Notre Dame risks finishing in the top 16 with a losing record and being ineligible.

That's what I hate about pairwise. So much is out into strength of schedule when that's the one thing that schools can't control. Teams can't choose how strong or weak their conference is each year and a lot of the time schools with a worse record from the strong conferences struggle in the tournament.

[jtwcornell91]

I think it's time for the pairwise to give more than a 20 percent bonus for away games. If you look around the ncaa this year there are some tremendous differences in home vs away record. Just in the ECAC harvard and Q are undefeated at home, we have one loss at home and are below .500 away. Even Yale is hovering around .500 at home.

I don't think anyone is computing KASA any more, but I wonder how hard it would be for Adam to turn it on for CHN.

[jkahn]

I think it's time for the pairwise to give more than a 20 percent bonus for away games. If you look around the ncaa this year there are some tremendous differences in home vs away record. Just in the ECAC harvard and Q are undefeated at home, we have one loss at home and are below .500 away. Even Yale is hovering around .500 at home.

It's actually a 50% bonus compared with a home win, since home wins are .8 wins vs. road wins being 1.2.   I think that all conference games should just be straight 1.0.  Right now, if we were to split with a team while winning at home. it's .8 W and .8L.  If we split with a team by winning on the road, it's 1.2W and 1.2L.  The extra, .4W and .4L actually brings down the win percentage for any team over .500.  It shouldn't matter which way the split happened.  I know that in some other conferences teams may play an opponent an odd number of times, but the # of home and road games generally even out for the entire conference schedule  The 1.2 W in non-conference helps give teams an incentive to schedule home and road series with opponents like Arizona Stae or Lindenwood,

[Trotsky]

Just.  Win.

[Trotsky]

Why?  It is quite literally the only good thing about them

[ursusminor]

Why?  It is quite literally the only good thing about them

Can we stuff the ballot box for #26?

[Scersk '97]

Why?  It is quite literally the only good thing about them

The non-gendered alternative is sitting right there! Just like Syracuse has taken to referring to themselves most often as "the Orange," Union can just start referring to themselves as "the Dutch." It's fine. We'll all go on hating them in much the same way as we always have.

Or go with "Garnet" or "Big Garnet." Or the "Chesters."

But what's going to happen is the "branding team" (ugh) is going to come up with some awful "—hawk" alternative and another little piece of distinctive weirdness—not even a bad piece of distinctive weirdness—will fade away.

[Trotsky]

Skating Dutchmen could be the greatest logo in history if they used their imaginations.  Just adapt this to a goddamn skater and you have something spectacular:

[RichH]

Skating Dutchmen could be the greatest logo in history if they used their imaginations.  Just adapt this to a goddamn skater and you have something spectacular:

Weird Hans Brinker mascot should have been installed years ago.

Could've been a contender to dethrone this:

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/33/808/full/owrbh7sxgug3x64geprr.gif

[Trotsky]

But what's going to happen is the "branding team" (ugh) is going to come up with some awful "—hawk" alternative and another little piece of distinctive weirdness—not even a bad piece of distinctive weirdness—will fade away.

All contemporary branding is boring pablum that ages like milk.  The only new team image I can think of in the last 30 years that was an improvement is Guardians, because (1) Jesus fuck did you see the old one?, and (2) it has potential for when they really start to exploit the Art Deco theme after ChildWorld (the consumerist aesthetic of the last 30 years) is finally flushed down the toilet.

GenZers, save us.  Your parents and grandparents are vacuous idiots with no style.

[Trotsky]

The only thing about this logo that sucks is the aspect ratio, which is even worse than Michigan.  Otherwise it's okay.

[Swampy]

Skating Dutchmen could be the greatest logo in history if they used their imaginations.  Just adapt this to a goddamn skater and you have something spectacular:

Are they allowed to call themselves "Orange," or the "Dutch Orange," or the "Orange Dutch, or the "Original Orange," or the "Orange you glad I didn't add a fifth name? Orange"?

After all, Union is Division III in everything but hockey, and Syracuse doesn't have a varsity, D-I hockey team."

[Trotsky]

I don't think you can use Orange anymore because it gives the Catholics a sad or something.  I have lost track of whose feewies are hurt by that one.

[RichH]

Ah, the sad  image-linking quirks of a 20 year-old forum code.