Opponents and Others, 2022-23

[osorojo]

A mob of apologists scream "Bot! Bot!" whenever a post suggests a sub-par performance by a C.U. hockey team and calls for improvement. Crowds were not nearly as forgiving during the decades when the team was expected to at LEAST win the Ivy league men's ice hockey championship. Today's C.U. Hockey fans are much less demanding - and Much less numerous . . .

[BearLover]

A mob of apologists scream "Bot! Bot!" whenever a post suggests a sub-par performance by a C.U. hockey team and calls for improvement. Crowds were not nearly as forgiving during the decades when the team was expected to at LEAST win the Ivy league men's ice hockey championship. Today's C.U. Hockey fans are much less demanding - and Much less numerous . . .

Do you actually follow the team or do you just log onto this forum to complain? Cornell regularly wins the Ivy League title. Three years straight from 2018-2020, for example. Harvard currently has 15 draft picks on their team, and I'm sorry that Cornell doesn't win the Ivy League literally every single season.

[George64]

Colgate 6 - Harvard 4

[Trotsky]

Circle of Suck achieves closure for another season.

[osorojo]

B.L. - What do you consider to be a successful C.U. ice-hockey season? A half-full Lynah Rink for every home game? A top-five finish in the ECAC? What [in your opinion] would be a proper aspiration for a C.U. hockey fan, not too low and not too high?

[upprdeck]

And add in what kind of commitment from the school is required to get the level of success we want as fans..  Money drives the bus..  We still have pretty cheap tickets, parking is mostly free, The school does very little to promote the team being better and help recruiting.

[Al DeFlorio]

The men's and women's teams were #1 in 2020 when the season was shut down by Covid.  There was no 2021 for Cornell.  2022 was a recovery year.  2023 still has a long way to go.  Incoming recruits look pretty solid.  No reason to whine.

[Iceberg]

Yeah, and putting aside the thread drift for a bit. There are actually some in-conference and OOC games this weekend. It would be nice if the conference improved its overall record

[BearLover]

B.L. - What do you consider to be a successful C.U. ice-hockey season? A half-full Lynah Rink for every home game? A top-five finish in the ECAC? What [in your opinion] would be a proper aspiration for a C.U. hockey fan, not too low and not too high?

See, here's your problem. Every one of your posts is a straw-man. Literally no one on here is saying their metric for a successful season is Cornell finishing in the top five of the ECAC or Lynah being half-full. Just like no one on here said anything about the strength of a hockey team being correlated with the wealth of a university, or any of the various other fake arguments you've spent time disputing. You repeatedly prop up an exaggerated or straight up fake argument and then argue against it, and in so doing you talk past everyone on this forum because no one is actually arguing anything of the sort.

For the record, my metric for a successful CU hockey season is whether it makes the NCAA tournament. I.e., winning the ECAC tournament and/or finishing top ~14 in the Pairwise. Attendance-wise, I would like to see a sell-out or close to a sell out every game (other than intersession), with the student section heavily engaged. Clearly, your post completely missed how critically I judge the hockey team. But that would have been obviously if you'd paid any attention to my posts on here.

[French Rage]

The men's and women's teams were #1 in 2020 when the season was shut down by Covid.  There was no 2021 for Cornell.  2022 was a recovery year.  2023 still has a long way to go.  Incoming recruits look pretty solid.  No reason to whine.

osorojo would respond but he's too busy trying to find his comically small microdick.

[osorojo]

Not so long ago every Lynah game played before a standing room only crowd. Cornell hockey teams are now frequently playing at home to at best a half-empty rink. The student body and the townies have spoken, while apologists make silly excuses and crude insults rather than consider improvements. Maybe lower the price of admission? Athletes frequently improve their game before a big home crowd.

[upprdeck]

when was the not so long ago sold out crowd thing?  Back in the 90s?  so like 35 yrs ago?

[Trotsky]

The crowd was as good for the Harvard game as any I have seen in 41 seasons.

The aims for the median Cornell season are:

1. Get to Lake Placid
2. Get an NC$$ invite
3. Win the Ivies

In around half of those seasons, the stars align and we can reasonably have higher aims:

1. Win the ECACs
2. Advance in the NC$$s
3. Crack the PWR top 10

Insisting we must be a national title contender every year isn't being Achievement Oriented or whatever it is you are claiming to be, it is delusional.  Relative to the rest of the ECAC we are the pre-eminent team.

[BearLover]

Not so long ago every Lynah game played before a standing room only crowd. Cornell hockey teams are now frequently playing at home to at best a half-empty rink. The student body and the townies have spoken, while apologists make silly excuses and crude insults rather than consider improvements. Maybe lower the price of admission? Athletes frequently improve their game before a big home crowd.

Once again, it seems you do not actually watch any of the games. Lynah was sold out both nights this past weekend, with the most boisterous student section I have seen in 15 years. This season is certainly the most successful in terms of student tickets sold in recent memory. Last year attendance was halved due to COVID restrictions; otherwise, your post is completely incorrect. It's unclear why you continue to say things that are disproven by five seconds of Googling.

[Al DeFlorio]

The crowd was as good for the Harvard game as any I have seen in 41 seasons.

The aims for the median Cornell season are:

1. Get to Lake Placid
2. Get an NC$$ invite
3. Win the Ivies

In around half of those seasons, the stars align and we can reasonably have higher aims:

1. Win the ECACs
2. Advance in the NC$$s
3. Crack the PWR top 10

Insisting we must be a national title contender every year isn't being Achievement Oriented or whatever it is you are claiming to be, it is delusional.  Relative to the rest of the ECAC we are the pre-eminent team.

Some just can't seem to forget the late 60s and early 70s when it was expected Cornell would win every time they skated onto the ice.  The college hockey world has changed.  The number of Division 1 teams has more than doubled.  Canada is no longer virgin recruiting territory.  American kids compete now on equal footing.  The game is national, not regional.  The NCAAs are in NHL rinks, not the Broadmoor World Arena.

The 60s and 70s won't happen again.  Time to accept that and face today's reality.