Opponents and Others, 2022-23

[BearLover]

ECAC still looking like
Q/Harvard
[huge drop]
Cornell/Clarkson
[huge drop]
Everyone else

Q has too many fifth year seniors and Harvard has too much talent. The question is whether there will be more than two NCAA bids from the ECAC this year.

[Trotsky]

ECAC still looking like
Q/Harvard
[huge drop]
Cornell/Clarkson
[huge drop]
Everyone else

To be fair, that's what everybody expected coming into the season.

[Trotsky]

SLU surviving so far against Providence.

[Trotsky]

Day 1 of the annual You're Not Helping is in the books, 1-4-1

Brown 3 Holy Cross 0

Niagara 3 Colgate 2
Providence 4 St. Lawrence 3
Vermont 4 RPI 3 (ot)
RIT 5 Princeton 3

Harvard 4 Michigan 4 (ot)

There was also Quinnipiac 5 Dartmouth 2

One fun out of conference result: (PWR #50) LIU 3 (#19) Ohio State 2

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

One fun out of conference result: (PWR #50) LIU 3 (#19) Ohio State 2

"That's why they play the games"

[Trotsky]

One fun out of conference result: (PWR #50) LIU 3 (#19) Ohio State 2

"That's why they play the games"

St. Thomas also beat Lake State but that was chalk for PWR.  Poor Lake State, how they have fallen.

[adamw]

Completely unrelated but how is Harvard so high in Pairwise.  Undefeated but against a terrible schedule.  Last season we would win and lose spots in pairwise due to sos.  Harvard has a weak schedule-no problem.  Change in the system?

The PWR is flukish and not really worth looking at this early in the season. There likely haven't been enough out of conference games for the model to accurately compare teams in difference conferences.

Not true ... 90% of all non-conference games have already been played.

[adamw]

I questioned whether Schaefer's a good coach on this forum before. I thought it was a fair question because he's gone to the frozen four only once (03) and generally loses in the first round

this is demonstrably false

[BearLover]

Completely unrelated but how is Harvard so high in Pairwise.  Undefeated but against a terrible schedule.  Last season we would win and lose spots in pairwise due to sos.  Harvard has a weak schedule-no problem.  Change in the system?

The PWR is flukish and not really worth looking at this early in the season. There likely haven't been enough out of conference games for the model to accurately compare teams in difference conferences.

Not true ... 90% of all non-conference games have already been played.

The tweet I quoted was about Harvard. At the time of my tweet, Harvard had played one out of its seven OOC games. Harvard's opponents to that point had largely been Ivies who had collectively played less than 15% of their OOC games.

[marty]

Apparently slew footing is a thing.  I am not a knowledgeable fan of hockey and I hadn't seen this called before the game tonight.  The "Fridge" seemed baffled as he can be heard expecting the change from interference was going to be a 5 minute major for cross-checking.  The game was close.  RPI scored the game winning goal on a 5x3 advantage.  Though this slew footing call was also parlayed into a 5x3 with a tripping minor being called 3 and a half minutes later, RPI held on winning 2-1.  Watson had 41 saves for RPI.

[Iceberg]

Slew footing is definitely a thing and considered quite dirty in addition to being dangerous. It's not called often because it thankfully doesn't happen often but it's usually more than just a minor. Spearing is something that's in a similar realm as far as severity is concerned

[abmarks]

Apparently slew footing is a thing.  I am not a knowledgeable fan of hockey and I hadn't seen this called before the game tonight.  The "Fridge" seemed baffled as he can be heard expecting the change from interference was going to be a 5 minute major for cross-checking.  The game was close.  RPI scored the game winning goal on a 5x3 advantage.  Though this slew footing call was also parlayed into a 5x3 with a tripping minor being called 3 and a half minutes later, RPI held on winning 2-1.  Watson had 41 saves for RPI.

From USA hockey rulebook:

"(Note 4) Slew Footing is the act of a player using his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent's feet from under him. This is done by pushing an opponent's upper body backwards with an arm or elbow at the same time using a forward motion of his leg causing the opponent to fall to the ice...The minimum penalty to be assessed for slew footing is a major plus game misconduct penalty."

[Trotsky]

Here's everybody's favorite POS not named "Ulf" demonstrating slew footing.

[David Harding]

Last week our family gathered in Denver for Thanksgiving.  Friday evening some of us went to the DU-UNO game  Unranked Omaha beat Denver 3-0., so I was feeling a bit optimistic anticipating the MSG game.  https://omavs.com/news/2022/11/25/hockey-mavericks-blank-defending-national-champion-and-no-1-denver-pioneers-in-road-series-opener.aspx  

The DU rink seats about 6000 for hockey.  Perhaps due the school being on vacation, I'd guess the stands were about 2/3 full.  The place felt dead.  I was quite disappointed that there was no pep band.  I heard two chants all evening and declined to participate in one wave.  

Omaha dominated the whole game, winding up with a 2-1 SOG advantage.  It was 3-1 after the first period.  The pace was furious until both teams tired in the third period.  I was surprised that Denver didn't hold up better than Omaha with their advantage of living at the altitude.  

I haven't seen much hockey in the last few decades beyond the games at MSG, so this may not be new, but I was interested in the tactic of what I would call the lob pass.  A substantial fraction of the clears by both teams consisted of a player in the middle of the defensive zone lifting the puck perhaps 20 feet into the air to land somewhere in the neutral zone on the other side of the ice, usually in the neighborhood of a teammate.  This mostly functioned like a jump ball.  The high arc gave plenty of time for an opponent to get into the same neighborhood, so it didn't seem to be a very effective tactic for advancing the puck, though it did get the puck out without much risk of being intercepted in the defensive zone or going for icing.

[Trotsky]

The Harvard '89 team made the high lob clear into an art.  I swear they never iced the puck.