Cornell admissions

Started by CAS, March 21, 2022, 11:09:41 AM

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George64

Quote from: CASDirector of Admissions Shawn Felton said Cornell received well over 71,000 total applications for next fall's freshman class of 3,441.  This would be another record, & up over 5% from last year.  If Cornell had the same yield as last year (64.3%) for next fall's class, the admit rate would fall to a record low of 7.5%.

According to the WSJ, "The eight Ivy League schools notified prospective students of their fates Thursday evening. This year, only five will also say publicly what share of applicants actually got in."  The three not revealing acceptance rates now are Cornell, Princeton and Penn. Federal law, however, requires universities to report these data, which will become publicly available through the National Center for Education Statistics later this year.

Iceberg

Yeah, Cornell has been postponing the release of that data for a few years now. It'll probably come out during the summer before the start of the next academic year.

CAS

Cornell announced today that they admitted 4,908 students to the Class of 2026 (including early decision applicants).  With over 71,000 applications, the admit rate fell below 7%.   Interestingly 20% of admits were first-generation college students.

upprdeck

cornell admissions is weird..  our local HS has had multiple kids #1 in the class by a mile try to get accepted at cornell, and we are a local school.. None of them got accepted..  but kids in the same class at the the bottom of the top 10-20 got accepted.  The big difference is all of them came from much poorer families... And all of them dropped out with pretty much full rides by the end of yr 1..

kids with great grades, good SATs, played sports, band, clubs couldnt get in.. but the kids with OK grades, avg scores and no real interests in anything got in multiple times.. seems backwards.

CAS

Your local experience doesn't match Cornell's overall numbers.  95% of entering freshmen graduate, & the median
SAT scores of last year's entering class was 1510 (out of 1600).  All the Ivies are currently standardized test optional, but 60+% of the enrolled Class of 2025 still submitted them.

upprdeck

my experience and talking with lots of parents.. if you go to IHS/Lansing and have decent grades you can get in.. if you  go to any of the smaller schools around you have to be in the niche they are looking for..  now if you are the kid of prof or sr admin no question what happens when you apply.

Weder

Quote from: upprdeckmy experience and talking with lots of parents.. if you go to IHS/Lansing and have decent grades you can get in.. if you  go to any of the smaller schools around you have to be in the niche they are looking for..  now if you are the kid of prof or sr admin no question what happens when you apply.

Is that the case nowadays? I knew of several classmates at IHS who were children of professors who were rejected outright or given the guaranteed-transfer option. A couple did post-grad years to bolster their admissions chances.
3/8/96

nshapiro

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CASIt's amazing that Cornell now receives over 20 applications for each available spot in the first-year class, & may accept only 1 of every 13-14 applications.

Sure.  "Amazing."
Eliminate the common app, make High Schoolers request an application that they have to put in a typewriter to fill out. You know, the good old days.  That will cut down on applicants for sure.
When Section D was the place to be

CAS

Ahh, the good old days that I remember.  Cornell posts admission stats dating back to 1980.  The total number of applications received this year are up over 300% compared to 1980 (71K vs 17K), while the total number of admits is actually down 10% this year vs 1980 (4,908 vs 5,456). How many of us older alums would be admitted if we applied today, with the admit rating falling to 6.9% from 32%.

Trotsky

Quote from: CASAhh, the good old days that I remember.  Cornell posts admission stats dating back to 1980.  The total number of applications received this year are up over 300% compared to 1980 (71K vs 17K), while the total number of admits is actually down 10% this year vs 1980 (4,908 vs 5,456). How many of us older alums would be admitted if we applied today, with the admit rating falling to 6.9% from 32%.
And what if they are goosing it like everybody else?  Farming applicants who are obviously deficient to drive that exclusivity rating.  It's a wonderful scam.

French Rage

Quote from: billhowardAnd fraternities are down to about 28 houses. Had been up around 50, just not recently.

And requiring every house to have a live-in advisor with their own separate unit and bathroom is just an attempt to price more fraternities out of existence.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Trotsky

Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: billhowardAnd fraternities are down to about 28 houses. Had been up around 50, just not recently.

And requiring every house to have a live-in advisor with their own separate unit and bathroom is just an attempt to price more fraternities out of existence.
Good.

Robb

Quote from: CASAhh, the good old days that I remember.  Cornell posts admission stats dating back to 1980.  The total number of applications received this year are up over 300% compared to 1980 (71K vs 17K), while the total number of admits is actually down 10% this year vs 1980 (4,908 vs 5,456). How many of us older alums would be admitted if we applied today, with the admit rating falling to 6.9% from 32%.
The kids who were qualified to attend Ivies have always applied to Ivies.  The relaxed admissions policies add applicants from he left end of the tail, but don't materially raise admissions standards.  The only thing that raises admissions standards is improvement in secondary schools - if they are improving their access to AP classes and are hiring more outstanding teachers who educate more and more students to be "Ivy League Quality" then THAT is what makes it harder to stand out and get in.
Let's Go RED!

French Rage

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: billhowardAnd fraternities are down to about 28 houses. Had been up around 50, just not recently.

And requiring every house to have a live-in advisor with their own separate unit and bathroom is just an attempt to price more fraternities out of existence.
Good.

So edgy.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Trotsky

Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: billhowardAnd fraternities are down to about 28 houses. Had been up around 50, just not recently.

And requiring every house to have a live-in advisor with their own separate unit and bathroom is just an attempt to price more fraternities out of existence.
Good.

So edgy.
Not really.  I had no idea kids were still buying their friends.