Lack of support for Cornell sports teams

Started by dbilmes, February 15, 2022, 11:05:21 AM

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dbilmes

A Cornell student who did crew for three years laments the fact that her fellow students don't support most of the sports teams.
"At many other schools, athletes get great benefits: lots of gear, early access to class signups, even separate dining halls. That's not the case at Cornell. Being a student-athlete here earns no special privileges; the gear is usually old and reused, and the Ivy League doesn't provide any kind of scholarships for athletics. More often than not, being an athlete is an academic hindrance. We have to navigate exams and assignments around race schedules, coordinating with our professors and coaches in an effort to survive the semester."

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: dbilmesA Cornell student who did crew for three years laments the fact that her fellow students don't support most of the sports teams.
"At many other schools, athletes get great benefits: lots of gear, early access to class signups, even separate dining halls. That's not the case at Cornell. Being a student-athlete here earns no special privileges; the gear is usually old and reused, and the Ivy League doesn't provide any kind of scholarships for athletics. More often than not, being an athlete is an academic hindrance. We have to navigate exams and assignments around race schedules, coordinating with our professors and coaches in an effort to survive the semester."
Don't know much about the "gear" issue, but everything else is how I'd have it.
Al DeFlorio '65

dag14

It sounds like she is complaining about the financial support for Ivy athletics not the fan support.  As a student, I didn't even know where crew races took place.  As an alum and Ithaca resident, I enjoyed heading to the Inlet to cheer along with the kids' parents and siblings....

dbilmes

Quote from: dag14It sounds like she is complaining about the financial support for Ivy athletics not the fan support.  As a student, I didn't even know where crew races took place.  As an alum and Ithaca resident, I enjoyed heading to the Inlet to cheer along with the kids' parents and siblings....
Perhaps I picked the wrong paragraph from the article to put with my initial post. She's complaining about the lack of attendance by fellow students at most athletic contests, as well as the fact that she perceived a bias toward many of the Cornell student/athletes by their fellow students during the pandemic, as she claims they were unfairly blamed for spreading COVID. I would suggest reading her opinion column before jumping to any conclusions.

Trotsky

Quote from: dbilmesA Cornell student who did crew for three years laments the fact that her fellow students don't support most of the sports teams.
"At many other schools, athletes get great benefits: lots of gear, early access to class signups, even separate dining halls. That's not the case at Cornell. Being a student-athlete here earns no special privileges; the gear is usually old and reused, and the Ivy League doesn't provide any kind of scholarships for athletics. More often than not, being an athlete is an academic hindrance. We have to navigate exams and assignments around race schedules, coordinating with our professors and coaches in an effort to survive the semester."
FFS. And they say hippies whine.

Weder

Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: dag14It sounds like she is complaining about the financial support for Ivy athletics not the fan support.  As a student, I didn't even know where crew races took place.  As an alum and Ithaca resident, I enjoyed heading to the Inlet to cheer along with the kids' parents and siblings....
Perhaps I picked the wrong paragraph from the article to put with my initial post. She's complaining about the lack of attendance by fellow students at most athletic contests, as well as the fact that she perceived a bias toward many of the Cornell student/athletes by their fellow students during the pandemic, as she claims they were unfairly blamed for spreading COVID. I would suggest reading her opinion column before jumping to any conclusions.

I was wondering about that — do students not go to wrestling? Because otherwise the attendance is pretty solid, right? (I probably went to a couple of wrestling duals as a student and really enjoyed them.)
3/8/96

Weder

Quote from: dag14It sounds like she is complaining about the financial support for Ivy athletics not the fan support.  As a student, I didn't even know where crew races took place.  As an alum and Ithaca resident, I enjoyed heading to the Inlet to cheer along with the kids' parents and siblings....

I got to ride in the coaches' boat once, and seeing a race from that perspective was really fun.
3/8/96

ugarte

Quote from: WederI was wondering about that — do students not go to wrestling? Because otherwise the attendance is pretty solid, right? (I probably went to a couple of wrestling duals as a student and really enjoyed them.)
more townies than students tbh but i think that's true in the big 10 too.

dag14

Sometimes universities provide incentives to students to attend athletic events.  At UNC, students who go to volleyball games, gymnastics meets, women's athletic events, crew races, etc. collect "points" that give them priority for seating at basketball games.  At least this was true 10-15 years ago when a friend was an undergrad there.  A brilliant way to fill the seats at the less popular events.

marty

Quote from: dag14Sometimes universities provide incentives to students to attend athletic events....

Pizza and free chewing gum at Colgate? We used to have free candy until the geniuses at Taylor Hall got involved.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

cu155

An entrepreneurial student could solve the crew attendance problem easily by setting up a big screen at the farmers market and stream live from a drone following the boats.  They could cooperate with vendors at the farmers' market to sell tickets that offer discounts, or Boathouse Grill (if they are still there) or Cornell could run 'crew and brew' events from the docks but I realize none of this would likely happen.

As for school support for athletes maybe it's changed since I was rowing but they did allow us to call ahead to keep a dining hall open for practices running late and we were in fact able to schedule classes ahead of gen-pop though maybe that was college dependent and worked for A&S and not others.... so not rolling in hookers & blow but bad either.  We even got cookies with our Short Stop Deli bus lunches!

CU2007

Lame. So sorry your "gear" was from last season and busy students don't care to watch crew or equestrian, while half the world starves. You'll be fine

upprdeck

How many people watch crew other than close friends and Alums for almost a whole career of racing.

Its no different than many other college sports.. Im sure squash has a huge following.  club hockey,  

The womans hockey team when #1 still had a few hundred people showing up many games.

and Crew is the hardest sport to really watch if not on TV..

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: upprdeckHow many people watch crew other than close friends and Alums for almost a whole career of racing.

Its no different than many other college sports.. Im sure squash has a huge following.  club hockey,  

The womans hockey team when #1 still had a few hundred people showing up many games.

and Crew is the hardest sport to really watch if not on TV..
Back in the day, the viewing train that followed the race was packed.  And men wore three-piece suits and bowlers or derbies or straw hats to baseball games.  Today:  What's a derby?
Al DeFlorio '65

marty

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: upprdeckHow many people watch crew other than close friends and Alums for almost a whole career of racing.

Its no different than many other college sports.. Im sure squash has a huge following.  club hockey,  

The womans hockey team when #1 still had a few hundred people showing up many games.

and Crew is the hardest sport to really watch if not on TV..
Back in the day, the viewing train that followed the race was packed.  And men wore three-piece suits and bowlers or derbies or straw hats to baseball games.  Today:  What's a derby?

Kindly...drop the vernacular.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."