@ RPI Fri 2/11/22

Started by billhoward, February 11, 2022, 05:52:12 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: scoop85If Ben Syer is hoping to be a head coach anywhere, he'll want to burn the tapes from the past month.
lol i came here to type "I never comment on coaches because I don't feel qualified but if there's one thing I know, it is that I don't want Ben Syer to replace Mike Schafer."

upprdeck

really though you out shoot someone by 30+ shots you shouldnt lose by 4..   we controlled play for 80% of the game had tons of open looks.. hit the pipe at least  4 times gave up a bad angle 1 handed back hand.. on top of that probably missed 4-5 open nets .

the level of play was fine.  we cycled all game had multiple chances from great spots and just cant seem to get a 3rd goal.

underskill

Reminds me of Pete Gaudet replacing Coach K in 1994. Yuck.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: TrotskyNo joy or energy all night. We have looked like a beaten dog.


I've seen us suck plenty of times.  But other than 93 I've never seen us not care.

Give me a break. We out shot them 41-19 and 2 of their 19 were the empty net goals.

We certainly looked like a beaten dog when we out shot them 21-5 in the third period, again with 2 EN shots.

I'm terribly disappointed, but working that hard in the third and you can say they don't care. Wow!
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Dafatone

I think we're getting into a bit of a yips situation where a lot of players look a little tentative with the puck in the offensive zone and, as the game starts to slip away for the nth game in a row, everyone's gripping the stick a little too tight.

But we're certainly controlling play. Young team, lack of leadership, coach has been out for a long time. Just need to get Schafer back and right the ship.

Also. Fuck North Dakota. North Dakota sucks.

Scersk '97

Quote from: DafatoneI think we're getting into a bit of a yips situation where a lot of players look a little tentative with the puck in the offensive zone and, as the game starts to slip away for the nth game in a row, everyone's gripping the stick a little too tight.

And every shot is a shot meant to drive the puck through the net and the glass behind it. The overwrought, useless slappahs this season!

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyI've seen us suck plenty of times.  But other than 93 I've never seen us not care.
Lmao, you must be watching a different sport if you think this team doesn't care.

marty

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: TrotskyI've seen us suck plenty of times.  But other than 93 I've never seen us not care.
Lmao, you must be watching a different sport if you think this team doesn't care.

All the connected passes near the net that we made earlier in the season are missing, timing is off by a stick length or less and we're always a step away from rebounds. Then there are the shots off the iron. This is a very sad stretch.  Who knows when it ends.  It will end.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

ice

When Cornell plays less skilled teams, the transitions are slow.  The offense is cautious and deliberate with an emphasis on puck control.  By the time they get set up in the offensive zone, the shooting lanes are clogged up.  

Hopefully, now that a lot of players are healthier, the team will gel again and move things around more quickly.

BearLover

Lots of IMO baseless takes in this thread. This is not a "different team" from what we saw earlier this season. Cornell was in basically the same position in the PWR (somewhere in the 20s) for almost the entire first half. They tricked a lot of poll voters and forum posters by barely beating, or tying and then beating in OT, crap teams. And it certainly isn't true that the team "doesn't care"—they've played extremely hard the whole season. The effort level is no lower than that of any Cornell team I've watched in the past.

If you want to get angry at someone for not caring, I'd suggest you direct your anger at the Ivy League. They're the ones who decided to cancel last season while 51 other schools played because they thought obliterating all of their athletic teams was worth making it appear like they were doing something about COVID. And then the Ivy League waited until most of the upperclassmen transferred or went pro before announcing an extra year of eligibility. Meanwhile, all other schools granted a fifth year of eligibility anyway, despite playing last season. The result is that Cornell is regularly sending out lineups where nearly every player has one or two years of college hockey experience against teams filled with fourth and fifth year players. Obviously Cornell is going to be severely disadvantaged given those circumstances. And while some of Cornell's ECAC opponents are in a similar boat with respect to not playing last season, these opponents (especially those non-Ivies that allow for grad transfers) are still regularly putting out considerably older lineups than Cornell's.

BearLover

For what it's worth, I think the program will be fine in a few years. We're generally outplaying teams even during the losing streak. I think the single worst thing about this team is the goaltenders' tendency to give up rebounds and their failure to control opposing players in close. This particularly affects the PK, where there is always going to be an open player on the other team to pounce on the rebound or punch in a loose puck in the crease. The old mantra that you you need your goalie to be your best penalty killer is certainly true with this team. Our goalies' bad rebound control and inability to pokecheck/fight off guys in the crease is killing us. That's not to absolve the rest of the PK unit or the coaching, which seems content to cede possession to the other team for the entire PK. They don't go after loose pucks or lay out for clears—instead, they pack the area in front of the goal and give the other team all day to set up. I don't get it, honestly. It seems to have worked in past years, but maybe this structure hinged on having a goalie who could control rebounds and stand his ground at the top of the crease.

Roy 82

Quote from: BearLoverLots of IMO baseless takes in this thread. This is not a "different team" from what we saw earlier this season. Cornell was in basically the same position in the PWR (somewhere in the 20s) for almost the entire first half. They tricked a lot of poll voters and forum posters by barely beating, or tying and then beating in OT, crap teams. And it certainly isn't true that the team "doesn't care"—they've played extremely hard the whole season. The effort level is no lower than that of any Cornell team I've watched in the past.

If you want to get angry at someone for not caring, I'd suggest you direct your anger at the Ivy League. They're the ones who decided to cancel last season while 51 other schools played because they thought obliterating all of their athletic teams was worth making it appear like they were doing something about COVID. And then the Ivy League waited until most of the upperclassmen transferred or went pro before announcing an extra year of eligibility. Meanwhile, all other schools granted a fifth year of eligibility anyway, despite playing last season. The result is that Cornell is regularly sending out lineups where nearly every player has one or two years of college hockey experience against teams filled with fourth and fifth year players. Obviously Cornell is going to be severely disadvantaged given those circumstances. And while some of Cornell's ECAC opponents are in a similar boat with respect to not playing last season, these opponents (especially those non-Ivies that allow for grad transfers) are still regularly putting out considerably older lineups than Cornell's.

I don't feel anger towards the Ivy League. I think it was the right call. It's unfortunate for the athletes. But the idea of a special status for athletics while everyone else is hunkered down is not appropriate for an environment where the primary goal is education.

Trotsky

We have all had our Linus in the pumpkin patch moment.  Mea culpa.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: BearLoverIf you want to get angry at someone for not caring, I'd suggest you direct your anger at the Ivy League. They're the ones who decided to cancel last season while 51 other schools played because they thought obliterating all of their athletic teams was worth making it appear like they were doing something about COVID. And then the Ivy League waited until most of the upperclassmen transferred or went pro before announcing an extra year of eligibility. Meanwhile, all other schools granted a fifth year of eligibility anyway, despite playing last season.

The result is that Cornell is regularly sending out lineups where nearly every player has one or two years of college hockey experience against teams filled with fourth and fifth year players. Obviously Cornell is going to be severely disadvantaged given those circumstances. And while some of Cornell's ECAC opponents are in a similar boat with respect to not playing last season, these opponents (especially those non-Ivies that allow for grad transfers) are still regularly putting out considerably older lineups than Cornell's.

I don't feel anger towards the Ivy League. I think it was the right call. It's unfortunate for the athletes. But the idea of a special status for athletics while everyone else is hunkered down is not appropriate for an environment where the primary goal is education.

So maybe they were correct in canceling sports, but they should have made an early decision about eligibility.

No, they carry a lot of blame
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLoverFor what it's worth, I think the program will be fine in a few years.

Certainly.

Quote from: BearLoverWe're generally outplaying teams even during the losing streak. I think the single worst thing about this team is the goaltenders' tendency to give up rebounds and their failure to control opposing players in close. This particularly affects the PK, where there is always going to be an open player on the other team to pounce on the rebound or punch in a loose puck in the crease. The old mantra that you you need your goalie to be your best penalty killer is certainly true with this team. Our goalies' bad rebound control and inability to pokecheck/fight off guys in the crease is killing us.

Agreed.  And TBH that could mean we are just one guy away.  I don't know if that is Remington Keoppel or whether for that matter Shane and/or Howe develops into a stellar goaltender.