Q Game Thread

[Al DeFlorio]

Using the kind of delicate language Trotsky would - Fuck the casual fan.  Scrap the 3-on-3, play a 5-on-5 overtime, in which the winner gets credit for a win, and if you have to, have a shootout for conference purposes that would count as a tie in pairwise.

How about five minutes of 5 on 5 regular OT, with an OT win being a regular win for pairwise purposes, and then a second OT if needed of 3 on 3, which could result in the current pairwise split. This would give us basically what we've had for the last twenty or so years (I don't remember when the OT format last changed before this recent change, but I think it's been at least 20 years), with the 3 on 3 just as a last resort to break ties that would have been ties after a "regular" OT.

Ice quality and clock time are the issues, I think.  Seems to me the ice was resurfaced for the ten minute overtimes that were played back in the day.  That takes time.  Back then games were Tuesday night and Saturday night, not Friday/Saturday.  With ten minute overtimes a team couldn't play Katy-bar-the-door hockey to settle for a tie against a stronger team.

[Trotsky]

Just occurred to me that Cornell's last 3 goals have been scored by Berard and assisted by Malinski.

[JasonN95]

After Princeton I was wondering if Shane would get the start against Q. He did and he was obviously fantastic. I don't remember, what were the expectations for him when it was announced he'd join Cornell? I'm guessing it's his crease the rest of the way so long as he doesn't fall into a funk.

[scoop85]

After Princeton I was wondering if Shane would get the start against Q. He did and he was obviously fantastic. I don't remember, what were the expectations for him when it was announced he'd join Cornell? I'm guessing it's his crease the rest of the way so long as he doesn't fall into a funk.

Shane's backstory is interesting. He had a great W-L record with a strong Chicago Steel team in the USHL in 2019-20, but his save percentage was just .886. Last year he got off to a rough start in Chicago and ended up finishing the season with Bismarck in the NAHL. There his stats improved (2.60 GA average and .914 save percentage), albeit against somewhat inferior competition.

I'm not sure where else Shane had offers, but Howe was probably the more heavily recruited of the two, having chosen Cornell over BC. But at this moment Shane looks like the top guy.

[Trotsky]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

[billhoward]

...  why bother with overtime at all?  And, why do it with a bogus three-on-three format?  Worse, if we should think of it as a tie, anywsy, why add a meaningless shoot-out on top of an unresolved overtime?  That's all now unnecessary.  Why require six numbers to show a team's overall record when three would do?  Classic case of over-thinking something when there's an obvious simple solution.

Fans like outcomes that have a W or L. It was exciting to see Ben Barard score that OT goal. Sunday morning I must have looped the Instagram clip 20 times, and damn if Barard doesn't score each time. Allow me that pleasure. In some way it makes up for the collapse against Wisconsin a couple years back in the NCAA semifinals.

The clip: https://www.instagram.com/p/CZDkxsmjYCn/

[Jim Hyla]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

Funny, I was thinking that Howe left a ton of rebounds, metric or not.

I'll give Schafer the nod, that Shane plays better in games than practice and I gather Howe is the reverse.

[Dafatone]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

Funny, I was thinking that Howe left a ton of rebounds, metric or not.

I'll give Schafer the nod, that Shane plays better in games than practice and I gather Howe is the reverse.

And here I'm thinking that McDonald is the one who gives up the most rebounds.

[Jim Hyla]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

Funny, I was thinking that Howe left a ton of rebounds, metric or not.

I'll give Schafer the nod, that Shane plays better in games than practice and I gather Howe is the reverse.

And here I'm thinking that McDonald is the one who gives up the most rebounds.

I'd agree with that.

But I think the battle is Shane vs Howe. That's why I posted on Howe.

[Dafatone]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

Funny, I was thinking that Howe left a ton of rebounds, metric or not.

I'll give Schafer the nod, that Shane plays better in games than practice and I gather Howe is the reverse.

And here I'm thinking that McDonald is the one who gives up the most rebounds.

I'd agree with that.

But I think the battle is Shane vs Howe. That's why I posted on Howe.

Makes sense. I'd give Howe the occasional start. Rest is good, and Howe looked great early in the season before he got hurt. Shane is definitely the #1 though.

[billhoward]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

Funny, I was thinking that Howe left a ton of rebounds, metric or not.

I'll give Schafer the nod, that Shane plays better in games than practice and I gather Howe is the reverse.

And here I'm thinking that McDonald is the one who gives up the most rebounds.

I'd agree with that.

But I think the battle is Shane vs Howe. That's why I posted on Howe.

Goaltender stats: https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/team/Cornell/18

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Ian Shane Fr       343 min   1.57  .942  4-1-0
Joe Howe  Fr       358       2.35  .905  4-2-0
Nate McDonald Sr   385       2.50  .895  5-1-1


[Scersk '97]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

Funny, I was thinking that Howe left a ton of rebounds, metric or not.

I'll give Schafer the nod, that Shane plays better in games than practice and I gather Howe is the reverse.

And here I'm thinking that McDonald is the one who gives up the most rebounds.

I'd agree with that.

But I think the battle is Shane vs Howe. That's why I posted on Howe.

Yeah, McDonald is out. He's certainly not horrible—our best third-string goalie in memory.

I saw Shane control a couple of rebounds vs. Quinnipiac at very good times. I recall quite vividly a great second-chance grab off a shoulder save when he had two QU "companions" completely unchallenged and ready to pounce. And then, sometimes, well...

Whichever goalie improves his rebound control is going to be the starter. Right now, I give Shane the edge in positioning and glove hand; I give Howe the edge in stick handling and, well, size. I think at this point it's going to be Shane; I think in the longer term it's going to be Howe. It could be whatever freshman shows up next year.

But I am known (see Elliott, Jason) not to be an astute predictor of goalie development.

[upprdeck]

you cant also overlook that Shane has played 3 games vs top teams in this stretch and did more than enough to actually win them all.

lets get coach back behind the bench as well soon.

[scoop85]

Shane's glove hand has been excellent.

[Dafatone]

Shane bobbles saves and leaves a metric shit ton of rebounds.  I keep expecting him to be absolutely lit up but the only time it's happened was Princeton.

It's like he has such great positioning it makes up for having bad hands, which you'd think would be pretty suboptimal for a goalie.

Funny, I was thinking that Howe left a ton of rebounds, metric or not.

I'll give Schafer the nod, that Shane plays better in games than practice and I gather Howe is the reverse.

And here I'm thinking that McDonald is the one who gives up the most rebounds.

I'd agree with that.

But I think the battle is Shane vs Howe. That's why I posted on Howe.

Yeah, McDonald is out. He's certainly not horrible—our best third-string goalie in memory.

I saw Shane control a couple of rebounds vs. Quinnipiac at very good times. I recall quite vividly a great second-chance grab off a shoulder save when he had two QU "companions" completely unchallenged and ready to pounce. And then, sometimes, well...

Whichever goalie improves his rebound control is going to be the starter. Right now, I give Shane the edge in positioning and glove hand; I give Howe the edge in stick handling and, well, size. I think at this point it's going to be Shane; I think in the longer term it's going to be Howe. It could be whatever freshman shows up next year.

But I am known (see Elliott, Jason) not to be an astute predictor of goalie development.

Don't feel bad. I liked Davenport over Scrivens. Mistakes happen.