Polls

[pfibiger]

Was Berniers a Cornell decommit or am I hallucinating?

Edit: oh, wait, maybe he was a Harvard decommit.

His parents are both Cornell grads — his dad played football.

[ugarte]

Was Berniers a Cornell decommit or am I hallucinating?

Edit: oh, wait, maybe he was a Harvard decommit.

His parents are both Cornell grads — his dad played football.

oh i see. he's a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT

[RichH]

I don't think it sways recruiting, but if you're, say, East Hill Car Wash, why not throw Sam Malinski $500 to sing a verse?

"Vot a difference in this generation, tovarish." -- Max Andreev

These guys have had injuries. Maybe let them talk about their medical treatments and give poor RC Holmes from Watkins Glen a break from reliving how he tore his patellar tendon.

[ugarte]

I don't think it sways recruiting, but if you're, say, East Hill Car Wash, why not throw Sam Malinski $500 to sing a verse?

"Vot a difference in this generation, tovarish." -- Max Andreev

These guys have had injuries. Maybe let them talk about their medical treatments and give poor RC Holmes from Watkins Glen a break from reliving how he tore his patellar tendon.

i don't remember which game it was but i was watching a cornell road game (brown maybe?) and they had a local commercial that reminded me of the Cayuga Medical Center commercial so much I started laughing uncontrollably

[scoop85]

Was Berniers a Cornell decommit or am I hallucinating?

Edit: oh, wait, maybe he was a Harvard decommit.

His parents are both Cornell grads — his dad played football.

oh i see. he's a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT

Yeah, that's about right. Likewise Ian Moore's dad was also a Cornellian (Ian was drafted in the 3rd round last year by the Ducks and is a sophomore defenseman for Harvard)

[Trotsky]

We have lost a lot of Cornell brats over the years.  Ethan by Kent out of Kim comes to mind.

[scoop85]

We have lost a lot of Cornell brats over the years.  Ethan by Kent out of Kim comes to mind.

Manderville's a nice player—I would compare him with Tukper. But Moore and especially Berniers are at a different level.

[BearLover]

We have lost a lot of Cornell brats over the years.  Ethan by Kent out of Kim comes to mind.

Ethan Manderville and Jackson Nieuwendyk are two recent sons of Cornell legends who chose to play hockey at other schools. Neither put up great junior hockey numbers, and the schools they committed to (Colgate and Niagara) suggest they weren't heavily recruited. They could turn out to be fine players, and I'm sure the Cornell coaching staff did their due diligence, but as scoop85 said, they aren't on the same level as Moore and especially Beniers. For whatever reason, we've been about to stack up "good" recruits, but the true blue chip recruits don't seem to view Cornell Hockey in the way they view BC, BU, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver, NoDak, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and, unfortunately, Harvard.

[Trotsky]

For whatever reason, we've been about to stack up "good" recruits, but the true blue chip recruits don't seem to view Cornell Hockey in the way they view BC, BU, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver, NoDak, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and, unfortunately, Harvard.

[upprdeck]

We have lost a lot of Cornell brats over the years.  Ethan by Kent out of Kim comes to mind.

Ethan Manderville and Jackson Nieuwendyk are two recent sons of Cornell legends who chose to play hockey at other schools. Neither put up great junior hockey numbers, and the schools they committed to (Colgate and Niagara) suggest they weren't heavily recruited. They could turn out to be fine players, and I'm sure the Cornell coaching staff did their due diligence, but as scoop85 said, they aren't on the same level as Moore and especially Beniers. For whatever reason, we've been about to stack up "good" recruits, but the true blue chip recruits don't seem to view Cornell Hockey in the way they view BC, BU, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver, NoDak, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and, unfortunately, Harvard.

or it could just come down to cost of attendance..

[Iceberg]

Harvard happens to be in MA so I'm sure that helps for some recruits. That's not to say Cornell hasn't gotten its fair share of good players from MA over the years, but still

[BearLover]

For whatever reason, we've been about to stack up "good" recruits, but the true blue chip recruits don't seem to view Cornell Hockey in the way they view BC, BU, Minnesota, Michigan, Denver, NoDak, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and, unfortunately, Harvard.

I mean, there are all sorts of very reasonable explanations for why blue chippers don't come to Cornell. But the fact we get so many players who are just a step or two below the blue chippers makes me wonder why we can't snag a first- or second-rounder from time to time. We were getting them every so often in the early 2000s.

[RichH]

I mean, there are all sorts of very reasonable explanations for why blue chippers don't come to Cornell. But the fact we get so many players who are just a step or two below the blue chippers makes me wonder why we can't snag a first- or second-rounder from time to time. We were getting them every so often in the early 2000s.

There's also the case of an NHL team/GM making unusual or unexpected decisions based on needs, team control considerations, or developmental expectations. Sasha Pokulok and Reilly Nash went much higher than their rankings, IIRC. There are teams that feel much more comfortable drafting from the collegiate pool than others. There's historically been a premium on size, and smaller, more talented skaters could slip a lot down the draft board, or off it altogether. (See St. Louis, Martin)

[BearLover]

I mean, there are all sorts of very reasonable explanations for why blue chippers don't come to Cornell. But the fact we get so many players who are just a step or two below the blue chippers makes me wonder why we can't snag a first- or second-rounder from time to time. We were getting them every so often in the early 2000s.

There's also the case of an NHL team/GM making unusual or unexpected decisions based on needs, team control considerations, or developmental expectations. Sasha Pokulok and Reilly Nash went much higher than their rankings, IIRC. There are teams that feel much more comfortable drafting from the collegiate pool than others. There's historically been a premium on size, and smaller, more talented skaters could slip a lot down the draft board, or off it altogether. (See St. Louis, Martin)

That's all true. Though, the premium on size should lead to Cornell having more, now fewer, players drafted.

[Dafatone]

I mean, there are all sorts of very reasonable explanations for why blue chippers don't come to Cornell. But the fact we get so many players who are just a step or two below the blue chippers makes me wonder why we can't snag a first- or second-rounder from time to time. We were getting them every so often in the early 2000s.

There's also the case of an NHL team/GM making unusual or unexpected decisions based on needs, team control considerations, or developmental expectations. Sasha Pokulok and Reilly Nash went much higher than their rankings, IIRC. There are teams that feel much more comfortable drafting from the collegiate pool than others. There's historically been a premium on size, and smaller, more talented skaters could slip a lot down the draft board, or off it altogether. (See St. Louis, Martin)

That's all true. Though, the premium on size should lead to Cornell having more, now fewer, players drafted.

Interestingly, we've stayed big even as we've gotten more skilled, but our big guys don't play as big. Which is why I think we struggle sometimes with less talented physical teams (more last year than this year).

Our guys aren't as used to having to use their size.