Polls

[osorojo]

Declarative statements about future events can only imagine the likelihood of such events. Would-be sports gurus both professional and on-line, in print or in taverns, are chronic losers.
Neither your moving finger nor your wit will make you a seer or a winner - only a guesser. Soup kitchens are packed with living proof.

[BearLover]

Declarative statements about future events can only imagine the likelihood of such events. Would-be sports gurus both professional and on-line, in print or in taverns, are chronic losers.
Neither your moving finger nor your wit will make you a seer or a winner - only a guesser. Soup kitchens are packed with living proof.

Thank you.

[Dunc]

Declarative statements about future events can only imagine the likelihood of such events. Would-be sports gurus both professional and on-line, in print or in taverns, are chronic losers.
Neither your moving finger nor your wit will make you a seer or a winner - only a guesser. Soup kitchens are packed with living proof.

inspiring. osorojo for president

[JasonN95]

Cornell up to 11th in 1/23/23 USCHO poll. Has me wondering where the team would be ranked if it had gotten a tie at BU seeing BU with some first place votes. I thought Q would drop a bit further than 3rd.

[billhoward]

Cornell up to 11th in 1/23/23 USCHO poll. Has me wondering where the team would be ranked if it had gotten a tie at BU seeing BU with some first place votes. I thought Q would drop a bit further than 3rd.

Might Q only have fallen to #2 if they hadn't blown a 2-0 lead at Colgate and lost 3-2 the day after losing to us?

[JasonN95]

Cornell up to 11th in 1/23/23 USCHO poll. Has me wondering where the team would be ranked if it had gotten a tie at BU seeing BU with some first place votes. I thought Q would drop a bit further than 3rd.

Might Q only have fallen to #2 if they hadn't blown a 2-0 lead at Colgate and lost 3-2 the day after losing to us?

I was pulling for Q to beat Colgate. Cornell isn't going to catch Q, but Colgate is nipping at Cornell's heels. Plus Q losing to Colgate took a bit of the shine off of Cornell's win.

[Trotsky]

I was pulling for Q to beat Colgate. Cornell isn't going to catch Q, but Colgate is nipping at Cornell's heels. Plus Q losing to Colgate took a bit of the shine off of Cornell's win.

Cornell is closer to Q (.079) than Colgate (.084) in ECAC winning percentage.  Do not give up the 1 seed yet.

[BearLover]

Cornell up to 11th in 1/23/23 USCHO poll. Has me wondering where the team would be ranked if it had gotten a tie at BU seeing BU with some first place votes. I thought Q would drop a bit further than 3rd.

Might Q only have fallen to #2 if they hadn't blown a 2-0 lead at Colgate and lost 3-2 the day after losing to us?

I was pulling for Q to beat Colgate. Cornell isn't going to catch Q, but Colgate is nipping at Cornell's heels. Plus Q losing to Colgate took a bit of the shine off of Cornell's win.

Colgate winning is good news for Cornell. There is not much of a difference between finishing 2nd and 3rd in the ECAC. The goal is to (1) get a bye and (2) minimize the number of times we have to play Q and/or Harvard during the ECAC tournament. At the moment, (1) looks very likely, so I'm focusing on (2). A great outcome would be Q as the 1-seed, Cornell and Colgate as the 2-/3-seeds, and Harvard as the 4-seed. Then we wouldn't have to play Q/Harvard until the final.

[RichH]

Cornell up to 11th in 1/23/23 USCHO poll. Has me wondering where the team would be ranked if it had gotten a tie at BU seeing BU with some first place votes. I thought Q would drop a bit further than 3rd.

Might Q only have fallen to #2 if they hadn't blown a 2-0 lead at Colgate and lost 3-2 the day after losing to us?

I was pulling for Q to beat Colgate. Cornell isn't going to catch Q, but Colgate is nipping at Cornell's heels. Plus Q losing to Colgate took a bit of the shine off of Cornell's win.

Colgate winning is good news for Cornell. There is not much of a difference between finishing 2nd and 3rd in the ECAC. The goal is to (1) get a bye and (2) minimize the number of times we have to play Q and/or Harvard during the ECAC tournament. At the moment, (1) looks very likely, so I'm focusing on (2). A great outcome would be Q as the 1-seed, Cornell and Colgate as the 2-/3-seeds, and Harvard as the 4-seed. Then we wouldn't have to play Q/Harvard until the final.

Only if you assume chalk.

And I have to think that at this point, there are a lot of teams looking at ways to avoid *us* in the playoffs.

[BearLover]

Cornell up to 11th in 1/23/23 USCHO poll. Has me wondering where the team would be ranked if it had gotten a tie at BU seeing BU with some first place votes. I thought Q would drop a bit further than 3rd.

Might Q only have fallen to #2 if they hadn't blown a 2-0 lead at Colgate and lost 3-2 the day after losing to us?

I was pulling for Q to beat Colgate. Cornell isn't going to catch Q, but Colgate is nipping at Cornell's heels. Plus Q losing to Colgate took a bit of the shine off of Cornell's win.

Colgate winning is good news for Cornell. There is not much of a difference between finishing 2nd and 3rd in the ECAC. The goal is to (1) get a bye and (2) minimize the number of times we have to play Q and/or Harvard during the ECAC tournament. At the moment, (1) looks very likely, so I'm focusing on (2). A great outcome would be Q as the 1-seed, Cornell and Colgate as the 2-/3-seeds, and Harvard as the 4-seed. Then we wouldn't have to play Q/Harvard until the final.

Only if you assume chalk.

And I have to think that at this point, there are a lot of teams looking at ways to avoid *us* in the playoffs.

There are of course a lot of different ways things can go. But there are only two teams in the league that are (IMO) better than us, and if we want to win the ECAC it's easier if we only have to beat one of them. If Q and Harvard get the 1 and 4 seeds, then we don't have to beat them both. It's not the biggest concern in the world, but it's a tiebreaker when choosing who to root for in in-conference games.

[jkahn]

There are of course a lot of different ways things can go. But there are only two teams in the league that are (IMO) better than us, and if we want to win the ECAC it's easier if we only have to beat one of them. If Q and Harvard get the 1 and 4 seeds, then we don't have to beat them both. It's not the biggest concern in the world, but it's a tiebreaker when choosing who to root for in in-conference games.

In your scenario above, if Colgate loses in the quarter-finals we could still get Harvard in the semi-finals.
Also, one advantage for us with Q winning rather than losing games is the higher they rank in PWR, the more Quality Wins Bonus points we get.

[BearLover]

There are of course a lot of different ways things can go. But there are only two teams in the league that are (IMO) better than us, and if we want to win the ECAC it's easier if we only have to beat one of them. If Q and Harvard get the 1 and 4 seeds, then we don't have to beat them both. It's not the biggest concern in the world, but it's a tiebreaker when choosing who to root for in in-conference games.

In your scenario above, if Colgate loses in the quarter-finals we could still get Harvard in the semi-finals.
Also, one advantage for us with Q winning rather than losing games is the higher they rank in PWR, the more Quality Wins Bonus points we get.

That's a good point re: Colgate losing in the quarterfinals. Still, I think Colgate winning has the most upside for us. More than anything, I hate Quinnipiac.

[Trotsky]

More than anything, I hate Quinnipiac.

So say we all.

[Trotsky]

The 4th-place finisher will have a difficult QF.  Let's all agree to finish top 3 and then worry about the ordering above that.

[BearLover]

Draft picks per team by Pairwise ranking (top three round picks in parentheses):

1. Minnesota—14 (7)
2. Quinnipiac—3 (0)
3. Boston University—12 (
4. Michigan—12 (7)
5. St. Cloud—4 (2)
6. Penn State—2 (0)
7. Denver—12 (6)
8. Ohio State—3 (2)
9. Harvard—15 (4)
10. Western Michigan—4 (0)
11. Cornell—3 (1)