Vote Barron for Hobey

[marty]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

Ixne on the uthtre.

Pig Latin wasn't my major.  I seriously have no idea what that translates to

Kids.  ;-)

Some girls in our high school had a better form of gibberish that since they spit it out quickly, almost no one could follow.

They put egg in the middle of every peggiece sheggit theggey seggaid.
Had to be one of these.

thus solving a 25+ year mystery.thank you!!

Pig Latin or Egg Latin?

[abmarks]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

Barron was a dominant force in every game I watched this season. Others voting for him likely feel the same way. And few if any of us have studied Jack Dugan's and Jordan Kawaguchi's tape such that we could say with any degree of confidence that someone out there was better than Barron. Given all your late nights in the film room watching tape of all ten Hobey finalists, please enlighten us on who was clearly better than Barron.

Here are two we saw. Dugan and Farrance.

The eyeball test alone should put Dugan over  Barron immediately.   But if that's not enough, look at the stats.

Both Dugan and Farrance outscored Barron (Dugan by a LOT) in ppg.   And Farrance is a *defenseman* on top of that.

Cornell scored 3.6 gpg while both Providence and BU scored only 3.0 while playing tougher schedules (per sos stats)

Lesser offenses, tougher schedule, played on average teams at best (weaker supporting cast) but more points?  


-dominant force in every game?  No way.  There were some games you didn't even notice he was playing.

[jkahn]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

Barron was a dominant force in every game I watched this season. Others voting for him likely feel the same way. And few if any of us have studied Jack Dugan's and Jordan Kawaguchi's tape such that we could say with any degree of confidence that someone out there was better than Barron. Given all your late nights in the film room watching tape of all ten Hobey finalists, please enlighten us on who was clearly better than Barron.

Here are two we saw. Dugan and Farrance.

The eyeball test alone should put Dugan over  Barron immediately.   But if that's not enough, look at the stats.

Both Dugan and Farrance outscored Barron (Dugan by a LOT) in ppg.   And Farrance is a *defenseman* on top of that.

Cornell scored 3.6 gpg while both Providence and BU scored only 3.0 while playing tougher schedules (per sos stats)

Lesser offenses, tougher schedule, played on average teams at best (weaker supporting cast) but more points?  


-dominant force in every game?  No way.  There were some games you didn't even notice he was playing.

I only saw Dugan play in Vegas, but I'd be willing to posit that Morgan Barron is a much better defensive forward than Dugan.  I didn't vote in Trotsky's poll, but if I had I would have voted Barron as most improved, as I think he's really become a great defensive forward while still maintaining his offensive prowess.

[Swampy]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

Barron was a dominant force in every game I watched this season. Others voting for him likely feel the same way. And few if any of us have studied Jack Dugan's and Jordan Kawaguchi's tape such that we could say with any degree of confidence that someone out there was better than Barron. Given all your late nights in the film room watching tape of all ten Hobey finalists, please enlighten us on who was clearly better than Barron.

Here are two we saw. Dugan and Farrance.

The eyeball test alone should put Dugan over  Barron immediately.   But if that's not enough, look at the stats.

Both Dugan and Farrance outscored Barron (Dugan by a LOT) in ppg.   And Farrance is a *defenseman* on top of that.

Cornell scored 3.6 gpg while both Providence and BU scored only 3.0 while playing tougher schedules (per sos stats)

Lesser offenses, tougher schedule, played on average teams at best (weaker supporting cast) but more points?  


-dominant force in every game?  No way.  There were some games you didn't even notice he was playing.

My comment is more about the logic here than where the three players stand relative to each other.

A really good player on an extremely good and balanced team does not have to score points at a record-breaking pace for the team to be successful. Depending on the player's skill set, his contribution might be keeping opponents' top checking line on the ice for long periods or himself playing on a line that shuts down opponents' top lines.

Barron can score and play defense. Watching games late in the season, I had the feeling that the resurgence of our power play partly resulted from Barron acting as a decoy and attracting other teams' top defenders, while the rest of the power play unit moved the puck and scored.

Sort of like when our counter to SOT strategies in lacrosse worked really well, only better.

[RichH]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

I have bad news for you about MLB's All-Star fan balloting.

[The Rancor]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

Ixne on the uthtre.

Pig Latin wasn't my major.  I seriously have no idea what that translates to

Kids.  ;-)

Some girls in our high school had a better form of gibberish that since they spit it out quickly, almost no one could follow.

They put egg in the middle of every peggiece sheggit theggey seggaid.
Had to be one of these.

thus solving a 25+ year mystery.thank you!!

Pig Latin or Egg Latin?

egg latin

[abmarks]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

I have bad news for you about MLB's All-Star fan balloting.

Could care less about any selections in any sport that are made entirely by fan ballots.

Besides, I gave most people here more credit than that.  It's one thing to stuff the ballot box for your own guy, it's another to stuff it and proclaim he's actually the best when he isn't.

[Trotsky]

Besides, I gave most people here more credit than that.  It's one thing to stuff the ballot box for your own guy, it's another to stuff it and proclaim he's actually the best when he isn't.

He's probably not the best, but plenty of guys have won "meritocratic" awards who weren't the best so fuck it, let's get some! ::cheer::

[Trotsky]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

Ixne on the uthtre.

Pig Latin wasn't my major.  I seriously have no idea what that translates to

Kids.  ;-)

Some girls in our high school had a better form of gibberish that since they spit it out quickly, almost no one could follow.

They put egg in the middle of every peggiece sheggit theggey seggaid.
Had to be one of these.

thus solving a 25+ year mystery.thank you!!

Pig Latin or Egg Latin?

egg latin

We haven't cured cancer yet but the internet.

[Al DeFlorio]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

I have bad news for you about MLB's All-Star fan balloting.

Could care less about any selections in any sport that are made entirely by fan ballots.

Besides, I gave most people here more credit than that.  It's one thing to stuff the ballot box for your own guy, it's another to stuff it and proclaim he's actually the best when he isn't.

I'm certain in your divine wisdom you have determined, beyond any and all doubt, who is, in fact, "best."  Pray tell us the answer and your unchallengeable, infallible reasoning for determining this.

[RichH]

Do any of you actually think he was the best player in the country last season?

Seriously?

I have bad news for you about MLB's All-Star fan balloting.

Could care less about any selections in any sport that are made entirely by fan ballots.

Besides, I gave most people here more credit than that.  It's one thing to stuff the ballot box for your own guy, it's another to stuff it and proclaim he's actually the best when he isn't.

I'm certain in your divine wisdom you have determined, beyond any and all doubt, who is, in fact, "best."  Pray tell us the answer and your unchallengeable, infallible reasoning for determining this.

Doesn't matter now. The final 3 candidates are from Duluth, North Dakota, and the goaltender with the 14th best GAA.

[Trotsky]

The final 3 candidates are from Duluth, North Dakota, and the goaltender with the 14th best GAA.

McKay didn't make the final?  The fuck?

[billhoward]

Vote Barron for Hobey in 2021?

Thursday evening's online town hall with Mike Schafer, Yanni Kaldis and Jeff Malott - great event - left unclear what Morgan Barron will be doing for his senior year. Schafer said Barron is pondering the choice of returning for senior year or going pro, and "we support Morgan" whichever choice he makes.

Be nice to see him back to take care of unfinished business. But life is not a Hallmark movie where people keep coming back to the small town.

But, man, it would be nice. There's unfinished business in Ithaca.

[adamw]

Swayman faces 65% more shots with a save percentage .003 less than McKay's ... We had Swayman 1st Team All-CHN - and I voted for him for the Richter Award.

Also - annual reminder that the Hobey Hat Trick is NOT the "final 3 candidates" ... the winner is already known. The 3 represent the top 3 vote getters. There is no further voting.

[Dafatone]

Swayman faces 65% more shots with a save percentage .003 less than McKay's ... We had Swayman 1st Team All-CHN - and I voted for him for the Richter Award.

Also - annual reminder that the Hobey Hat Trick is NOT the "final 3 candidates" ... the winner is already known. The 3 represent the top 3 vote getters. There is no further voting.

I've never really understood why GAA is seen as a goalie metric rather than a team metric.