Corona Virus And Playoff Games

[scoop85]

Per CHN: The ECAC will reseed, and with Yale following Harvard's lead, top-seeded Cornell and No. 2 Clarkson will have byes to the semifinals. The league still plans to allow fans into 1980 Olympic Arena, but the report rightly notes that "it's a fluid situation changing very rapidly."

Shit! ::pain::

I woke up this morning looking forward to watching four high-level Cornell games this coming weekend. Now, I'm down to one!

Maybe a silver lining will be that everyone who would ordinarily view or attend the men's hockey games and/or lacrosse match but skip the women's game will now view the women's NC$$ quarterfinal at 2 PM this Saturday.

It is going to be televised, isn't it? Somebody please tell me "Yes." ::cry::

Yes, there's a link on the Cornell Women's thread.

[scoop85]

So the NBA season is now suspended after Rudy Gobert of the Jazz tested positive for the virus (why he was tested I have no idea, since he said he was feeling well enough to play). Hard to see any sports events going forward at this point.

[redice]

i am still trying to find anything that says how much the ecac tickets really cost.. But I know the tickets were not $6 this week

A friend of mine bought tix for Friday's game @ $20 each.   They told him that he will be refunded the full $20 per ticket.   It just doesn't seem right that season ticketholders would be refunded an amount so far below face-value.

do you pay full single-game price for a season ticket? if not, it's not entirely unreasonable to refund less than the single-game price for a voided playoff ticket.

That's obvious.   But, I'm pretty sure I didn't pay just $6 per ticket for the playoff ticket.  There's an inequity here.  That's my point!

[Trotsky]

Wormer dropped the Big One.  Only a matter of time til Lake Placid does it.

[Trotsky]

NBA suspends season.  Not sure if MLB will cancel Spring Training.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Wormer dropped the Big One.  Only a matter of time til Lake Placid does it.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[andyw2100]

Lots of discussion about $6 refunds on $20 (or close to it) tickets. But let's look at the big numbers / big issues as they apply not only to Cornell but to all the schools that are canceling "in-person" classes and sending the students home. Will the schools be issuing partial tuition refunds? The students did not pay for "distance learning." It doesn't seem at all fair to charge as much for that type of education as for what the student expected when the tuition was paid. What about housing? Are the schools going to issue partial refunds on housing, meal plans, etc.

There is some serious money at stake here.

[Dafatone]

Lots of discussion about $6 refunds on $20 (or close to it) tickets. But let's look at the big numbers / big issues as they apply not only to Cornell but to all the schools that are canceling "in-person" classes and sending the students home. Will the schools be issuing partial tuition refunds? The students did not pay for "distance learning." It doesn't seem at all fair to charge as much for that type of education as for what the student expected when the tuition was paid. What about housing? Are the schools going to issue partial refunds on housing, meal plans, etc.

There is some serious money at stake here.

I figure they have to give partial refunds on housing. As to tuition itself, they're probably safe but who knows.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Lots of discussion about $6 refunds on $20 (or close to it) tickets. But let's look at the big numbers / big issues as they apply not only to Cornell but to all the schools that are canceling "in-person" classes and sending the students home. Will the schools be issuing partial tuition refunds? The students did not pay for "distance learning." It doesn't seem at all fair to charge as much for that type of education as for what the student expected when the tuition was paid. What about housing? Are the schools going to issue partial refunds on housing, meal plans, etc.

There is some serious money at stake here.

I figure they have to give partial refunds on housing. As to tuition itself, they're probably safe but who knows.

Was just reading an article in the NYT about that.  A bigger issue is foreign students whose student visas don't allow them to take online classes.

[abmarks]

Not sure I agree that reseeding the ecacs is good for us.

-we'll be off for three weeks by the time the ecac semi rolls around.  That's an awful lot of rust to shake off before game time in LP.

-wonder what the pwr implications are from not playing the extra two games.  We are so close to the #2 spot would 2 more wins be enough to nudge us up in rpi? Or would they not help since Princeton is such a bad team?

Then again, probably much more pwr downside from the tiny chance we drop a game than from the quick sweep?

[French Rage]

So the NBA season is now suspended after Rudy Gobert of the Jazz tested positive for the virus (why he was tested I have no idea, since he said he was feeling well enough to play). Hard to see any sports events going forward at this point.

I suppose if no player/coach in the sport has caught it yet, there's a chance it goes on.  But the NBA certainly is going to set a precedent that if anyone close to it comes down with the virus that the hammer will come down.

[Dafatone]

Not sure I agree that reseeding the ecacs is good for us.

-we'll be off for three weeks by the time the ecac semi rolls around.  That's an awful lot of rust to shake off before game time in LP.

-wonder what the pwr implications are from not playing the extra two games.  We are so close to the #2 spot would 2 more wins be enough to nudge us up in rpi? Or would they not help since Princeton is such a bad team?

Then again, probably much more pwr downside from the tiny chance we drop a game than from the quick sweep?

I have to figure there's some, but very little, upside to winning in the pairwise. And if we lose, it'd hurt bad.

I'm worried about the rust. I'm more worried about whether we play the rest of the season. And I'm even more worried about getting through this damned thing while minimizing the crisis.

But the rust, too.

[abmarks]

The pep band has been told they are done for the year FWIW.

Someone asked if it's any more dangerous for the players to play a game vs going to the supermarket and so far everyone responding to that agreed it's the same risk.   But that's nonsense. You get the virus via eyes, nose, or mouth and it's transmitted in mucus though not sweat, right?

So what's higher risk-waiting in line at the grocery store or grinding for the puck on the boards with one or more opponents in the middle of the third period? It's got to be that the game is much higher risk and with those close quarters like that.

Though if I were a player that used a wire cage, I'd be swapping for the clear shield asap since itd block far more flying bits of stuff.

Also, arguably the risk isn't in playing a game.  Isn't there way more close contact and equipment sharing in the locker room or weight room every day during practices than you'd get in a game?   Just look how common it is for teams to have a bunch of people go down with the flu once one guy gets it.

[jtwcornell91]

Lots of discussion about $6 refunds on $20 (or close to it) tickets. But let's look at the big numbers / big issues as they apply not only to Cornell but to all the schools that are canceling "in-person" classes and sending the students home. Will the schools be issuing partial tuition refunds? The students did not pay for "distance learning." It doesn't seem at all fair to charge as much for that type of education as for what the student expected when the tuition was paid. What about housing? Are the schools going to issue partial refunds on housing, meal plans, etc.

There is some serious money at stake here.

I figure they have to give partial refunds on housing. As to tuition itself, they're probably safe but who knows.

I'm assuming most affected organizations have business interruption insurance like what kicked in after Katrina. But I wonder if this will sink the insurance companies with everyone filling claims everywhere all at once.

[The Rancor]

Lots of discussion about $6 refunds on $20 (or close to it) tickets. But let's look at the big numbers / big issues as they apply not only to Cornell but to all the schools that are canceling "in-person" classes and sending the students home. Will the schools be issuing partial tuition refunds? The students did not pay for "distance learning." It doesn't seem at all fair to charge as much for that type of education as for what the student expected when the tuition was paid. What about housing? Are the schools going to issue partial refunds on housing, meal plans, etc.

There is some serious money at stake here.

I figure they have to give partial refunds on housing. As to tuition itself, they're probably safe but who knows.

I'm assuming most affected organizations have business interruption insurance like what kicked in after Katrina. But I wonder if this will sink the insurance companies with everyone filling claims everywhere all at once.

what are you even talking about? Insurance won't pay tips to waiters, wages to cooks and taxi/uber drivers. Won't pay shit to nobody that needs it.