2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1

Started by Trotsky, December 07, 2019, 06:28:34 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: osorojoToo soon to start making excuses. Hockey is NOT a game of chance - unless Cornell's one goal in 40 shots was a lucky goal?

More no.

osorojo

I can't argue with cold, hard logic and solid evidence. On any particular night any hockey team could beat any other hockey team. But you would have to be very patient and very long-lived.

osorojo

I have been following Cornell Men's ice hockey ever since Roger "The Beast" Eastman stepped on Lynah's ice. I have come to sense the difference between an Excuse for a loss, such as "bad breaks" and a Reason for a loss, such as "injuries". Cornell was rated #2 - Dartmouth #29. What physical (versus mental) disabilities did Cornell suffer at game time?

ugarte

Quote from: osorojoI have been following Cornell Men's ice hockey ever since Roger "The Beast" Eastman stepped on Lynah's ice. I have come to sense the difference between an Excuse for a loss, such as "bad breaks" and a Reason for a loss, such as "injuries". Cornell was rated #2 - Dartmouth #29. What physical (versus mental) disabilities did Cornell suffer at game time?
The difference between 2 and 29 just isn't that wide. The Astros went 0-3 against the Reds this year. Holy Cross beat Minnesota etc etc etc

CU2007

Quote from: osorojoThe loss to Dartmouth was not due to injuries, poor ice, or any other physical factor as far as I have heard. The mental "quality" of the team at Dartmouth is suspect.

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osorojo


Dafatone

Quote from: osorojoIce hockey is not a game of chance.

Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?

osorojo

The examination of effects is not nearly as interesting as the examination of causes. A 2-1 hockey loss is an effect. "Nothing to see here folks - move on." Those who do not examine the causes and effects of the past are bound to repeat the past.

Trotsky

Quote from: osorojoThose who do not examine the causes and effects of the past are bound to repeat the past.

Review of your posts suggests this is the case.

Tom Lento

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: osorojoIce hockey is not a game of chance.

Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?

Well, I know from The Lore that Ned Harkness never, ever, let his teams have mental lapses, so I'm guessing CHN has its history pages wrong. 11-0-1 Cornell couldn't have lost to a 6-5-0 Yale team at Lynah in early January in 1967.

All kidding aside, the CHN page for the 1966-67 Cornell results is clearly messed up - it shows Cornell losing to Brown, playing BC to a draw, and beating BU en route to the ECAC tournament title, which makes no sense at all. However, according to Wikipedia the loss to Yale did, in fact, happen, with Cornell heavily outshooting Yale and losing anyway.

Here's hoping the rest of this season ends up with the same collection of titles as the 66-67 season.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Tom Lento
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: osorojoIce hockey is not a game of chance.

Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?

Well, I know from The Lore that Ned Harkness never, ever, let his teams have mental lapses, so I'm guessing CHN has its history pages wrong. 11-0-1 Cornell couldn't have lost to a 6-5-0 Yale team at Lynah in early January in 1967.

All kidding aside, the CHN page for the 1966-67 Cornell results is clearly messed up - it shows Cornell losing to Brown, playing BC to a draw, and beating BU en route to the ECAC tournament title, which makes no sense at all. However, according to Wikipedia the loss to Yale did, in fact, happen, with Cornell heavily outshooting Yale and losing anyway.

Here's hoping the rest of this season ends up with the same collection of titles as the 66-67 season.

The problem with the T & L in the CHN results is that they couldn't count past 10. We beat Brown 11-2 & BC 12-2, turning a loss and a tie into 2 wins.

Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.

Adam, where are you?

Edit #2: Looking at their whole results page, they can count past 10, as they have the McMaster game 14-2. So I don't know how they f'd up.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Jim HylaEdit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
In the old Gahden, Jim.  Boston, that is.
Al DeFlorio '65

osorojo

By definition we can't predict random events at all or complex future events with much reliability, but we certainly must study the past events and learn from them to achieve our goals. There is not much correlation between a hockey game and a craps game - unless you're into predestination? I hope someone is looking into what the team did wrong (besides lose) in the last game so they don't do it again in the next game. There's a generic name for people who continue to make the same mistakes.


osorojo