2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1

Started by Trotsky, December 07, 2019, 06:28:34 PM

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Trotsky


adamw

Quote from: Jim Hyla
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Quote from: osorojoIce hockey is not a game of chance.

Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?

Well, I know from The Lore that Ned Harkness never, ever, let his teams have mental lapses, so I'm guessing CHN has its history pages wrong. 11-0-1 Cornell couldn't have lost to a 6-5-0 Yale team at Lynah in early January in 1967.

All kidding aside, the CHN page for the 1966-67 Cornell results is clearly messed up - it shows Cornell losing to Brown, playing BC to a draw, and beating BU en route to the ECAC tournament title, which makes no sense at all. However, according to Wikipedia the loss to Yale did, in fact, happen, with Cornell heavily outshooting Yale and losing anyway.

Here's hoping the rest of this season ends up with the same collection of titles as the 66-67 season.

The problem with the T & L in the CHN results is that they couldn't count past 10. We beat Brown 11-2 & BC 12-2, turning a loss and a tie into 2 wins.

Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.

Adam, where are you?

Edit #2: Looking at their whole results page, they can count past 10, as they have the McMaster game 14-2. So I don't know how they f'd up.

I love when everyone snarks instead of just, ya know, sending a nice heads up email. Friggin millennials.
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adamw

Quote from: osorojoBy definition we can't predict random events at all or complex future events with much reliability, but we certainly must study the past events and learn from them to achieve our goals. There is not much correlation between a hockey game and a craps game - unless you're into predestination? I hope someone is looking into what the team did wrong (besides lose) in the last game so they don't do it again in the next game. There's a generic name for people who continue to make the same mistakes.

Nah, coaches never do that ... They just wind up the players, turn on the electric vibration machine, and let them run around randomly in hopes of the right outcome.
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adamw

Quote from: Jim HylaEdit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.

I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.

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RichH

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: Jim HylaEdit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.

I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.

And then, after beating Harvard in Ithaca, they went back to the Garden for the "Boston Christmas Tournament" with Northeastern, Harvard, and BU. Maybe Ned also lobbied for us to replace BC in the Beanpot that year, too.

Trotsky


scoop85

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Ok, so I'm an elder law attorney by day.  A portion of this thread seems to have devolved into the random and disconnected rambling that I hear on an almost daily basis with certain of my clients.

Trotsky

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Ok, so I'm an elder law attorney by day.  A portion of this thread seems to have devolved into the random and disconnected rambling that I hear on an almost daily basis with certain of my clients.
Do they pay you in hard candy?

cth95

That's really cool.  I plugged in the games for 2003 and happened to notice we lost to Dartmouth in Hanover 5-2 before beating them later in Ithaca 6-1.  I hope that bodes well for this year.

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: adamw
Quote from: Jim HylaEdit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.

I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.

And then, after beating Harvard in Ithaca, they went back to the Garden for the "Boston Christmas Tournament" with Northeastern, Harvard, and BU. Maybe Ned also lobbied for us to replace BC in the Beanpot that year, too.
No, this tournament was in the Boston Arena, not the Garden.  I had already posted that the first tournament was at the Boston Garden.
Al DeFlorio '65

Jim Hyla

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: Jim HylaEdit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.

I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.


Yes my bad. I always remembered us going to MSG for their holiday tournaments, we won it 4 times including the year before and the year after 1966, so my old age memory got this wrong.

Adam, I believe you also have the BC games in that tournament as being at MSG. Those also carry over into the MSU and NU pages, where the games against BC are listed as at MSG and the other games at Boston.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

adamw

Quote from: Jim HylaAdam, I believe you also have the BC games in that tournament as being at MSG. Those also carry over into the MSU and NU pages, where the games against BC are listed as at MSG and the other games at Boston.

Fixed it - thanks.
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Swampy

The press accounts don't do justice to Mike Doran's goal. It was a 2-on-1, with Doran trailing Ferguson. Ferguson skated straight on goal and dropped the pass to Doran. Meanwhile, Ferguson faked a shot and moved into position to screen the GK. Doran immediately shot the puck into the goal.

It's the kind of thing that stays with you for fifty years or so.

Trotsky

Quote from: SwampyThe press accounts don't do justice to Mike Doran's goal. It was a 2-on-1, with Doran trailing Ferguson. Ferguson skated straight on goal and dropped the pass to Doran. Meanwhile, Ferguson faked a shot and moved into position to screen the GK. Doran immediately shot the puck into the goal.

It's the kind of thing that stays with you for fifty years or so.
If I close my eyes I can still see the Moeser goal from Nieuwy to win the 1986 ECAC SF in 2ot against Yale.