Polls 2019-20

[Tom Lento]

Signs that Harvard and Cornell will regress: the Crimson's shooting percentage (18.2%) is first in the country, and the Big Red's (15.8%) is second. Meanwhile, Harvard's save percentage (96.2%) is far and away number one in the nation. Cornell's (92.6%) is tied for tenth, though that is in line with Galajda's and Cornell's historical save percentages, and so may not regress much if at all.

I don't feel like looking this up for Harvard, but Cornell is absolutely dominating even strength shot attempts thus far. Even vs Clarkson they had a substantial advantage. IIRC the only game where Cornell didn't have a clear edge was game 1 vs MSU (basically even). That shooting percentage probably is unsustainable, but at least it's backed up by measurable signs of possession dominance.

One thing I've always wondered is how much team shooting percentage is a function of luck in college hockey. The talent differentials are much larger in D-I than in the NHL. It's possible Cornell's shooting % is huge in part because the teams they've been playing haven't been very good, so the shooters have had better looks and a lot more time.

[upprdeck]

do the numbers show the shooting % on quality chances cause thats what matters more..  you get the random game of long range tip ins and screen shots that go in but thats more luck.  the open shots from inside the circles is more what you can control, at least you hope you can.

so far we are getting a good number of open looks.  you might not get as many against better teams, but you better bury some of them when you get so many against the lesser teams and so far we have,

the passing has been great so far to free guys up.


I agree though after the top 3 it drops off pretty fast.   if that holds true you have to win most of those games and we only have 3 against harvard/clarkson left. then who is in the next tier? really want to win all those games against the bottom 6. dart/rpi/quin can you avoid more than a couple losses against those 3?  now we want to sweep clarkson and that leaves Harvard.

[Jim Hyla]

Rankings roundup: How the top 20 teams fared, Nov. 15-16

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No. 1 Minnesota State (8-1-1)
Did not play.

No. 2 Denver (8-2-2)
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 9 North Dakota 1 at No. 2 Denver 1 (OT)[/b]
11/16/2019 N- o. [b]9 North Dakota 4[/b] at No. 2 Denver 1

[b][u]No. 3 Cornell (6-0-0)[/u][/b]
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 3 Cornell 4[/b] at No. 7 Clarkson 2
11/16/2019 – [i]No. 3 Cornell 6[/i] at St. Lawrence 1 (at Canton)

No. 4 Notre Dame (8-1-1)
11/15/2019 – No. 4 Notre Dame 0 at [b]No. 15 Wisconsin 3[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 4 Notre Dame 5[/b] at No. 15 Wisconsin 4 (OT)

No. 5 Massachusetts (7-3-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 5 Massachusetts 3 at [b]RV Boston University 4[/b]
11/16/2019 – RV Boston University 1 at [b]No. 5 Massachusetts 4[/b]

No. 6 Minnesota Duluth (5-4-1)
11/15/2019 – No. 6 Minnesota Duluth 1 at [b]Miami 3[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 6 Minnesota Duluth 3[/b] at Miami 2

[b][u]No. 7 Clarkson (8-3-1)[/u][/b]
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 3 Cornell 4[/b] at No. 7 Clarkson 2
11/16/2019 – Colgate 1 at [b]No. 7 Clarkson 5[/b]

No. 8 Penn State (9-2-0)
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 8 Penn State 8[/b] at Minnesota 2
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 8 Penn State 6[/b] at Minnesota 3

No. 9 North Dakota (8-1-2)
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 9 North Dakota 1 at No. 2 Denver 1 (OT)[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 9 North Dakota 4[/b] at No. 2 Denver 1

No. 10 Providence (6-4-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 14 Northeastern 2 at [b]No. 10 Providence 3[/b]
11/16/2019 – No. 10 Providence 3 at [b]No. 14 Northeastern 7[/b]

No. 11 Ohio State (6-3-1)
Did not play.

No. 12 UMass Lowell (7-3-4)
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 12 UMass Lowell 3 at Connecticut 3 (OT)[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]Connecticut 2[/b] at No. 12 UMass Lowell 1

[b][u]No. 13 Harvard (5-0-0)[/u][/b]
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 13 Harvard 4[/b] at RV Brown 1
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 13 Harvard 6[/b] at Yale 1

No. 14 Northeastern (6-4-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 14 Northeastern 2 at N[b]o. 10 Providence 3[/b]
11/16/2019 – No. 10 Providence 3 at [b]No. 14 Northeastern 7[/b]

No. 15 Wisconsin (6-6-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 4 Notre Dame 0 at [b]No. 15 Wisconsin 3[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 4 Notre Dame 5[/b] at No. 15 Wisconsin 4 (OT)

No. 16 Boston College (7-4-0)
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 16 Boston College 5[/b] at Vermont 1
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 16 Boston College 3[/b] at Vermont 0

No. 17 Bowling Green (7-4-0)
11/15/2019 – [b]No. 17 Bowling Green 3[/b] at Alaska Anchorage 1
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 17 Bowling Green 3[/b] at Alaska Anchorage 0

No. 18 Northern Michigan (7-3-2)
11/15/2019 – RV Alaska 1 at [b]No. 18 Northern Michigan 2[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]RV Alaska 3[/b] at No. 18 Northern Michigan 2

No. 19 Omaha (6-3-1)
11/15/2019 – No. 19 Omaha 2 at [b]No. 20 Western Michigan 3[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 19 Omaha 6[/b] at No. 20 Western Michigan 3

No. 20 Western Michigan (6-4-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 19 Omaha 2 at [b]No. 20 Western Michigan 3[/b]
11/16/2019 – [b]No. 19 Omaha 6[/b] at No. 20 Western Michigan 3

RV = Received Votes


[Trotsky]

Welp, from that... we could be 2.

[Swampy]

Welp, from that... we could be 2.

We are indeed #2 in the USCHO poll. USA Today is always late.

[Jim Hyla]

Men #2 with 13 First votes. And they are above the women. I wonder when they last did that.

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[b]USCHO Division I Men's Poll - November 18, 2019[/b]
Rnk Team     (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Minnesota State (36) 8-1-1 983 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        (13) 6-0-0 948 3[/u][/b]
3 Notre Dame 8-1-1 830 4
4 Denver        8-2-2 820 2
5 North Dakota (1) 8-1-2 809 9
6 Penn State 9-2-0 787 8
7 Massachusetts 7-3-0 680 5
[b][u]8 Clarkson 8-3-1 619 7[/u][/b]
9 Minnesota Duluth 5-4-1 570 6
[b][u]10 Harvard        5-0-0 561 13[/u][/b]
11 Ohio State 6-3-1 467 11
12 Providence 6-4-2 433 10
13 Northeastern 6-4-2 342 14
14 Boston College 7-4-0 341 16
15 UMass Lowell 7-3-4 266 12
16 Wisconsin 6-6-0 250 15
17 Bowling Green 7-4-0 231 17
18 Omaha        6-3-1 148 19
19 Northern Michigan 7-3-2 137 18
20 Western Michigan 6-4-2 104 20

Others receiving votes: Maine 83, [b][u]Quinnipiac 52,[/u][/b]
Arizona State 11, Alaska 9, RIT 7, [b][u]Dartmouth 4[/u][/b],
Colorado College 4, New Hampshire 3, Robert Morris 1

[b]USCHO Division I Women's Poll - November 18, 2019[/b]
Rnk Team       (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Minnesota (15) 12-1-1 150 1
2 Wisconsin 12-1-1 135 2
[b][u]3 Cornell        7-0-1 115 3[/u][/b]
4 Northeastern 10-1-0 101 4
[b][u]5 Clarkson 10-1-3 87 5[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 10-1-1 79 6
7 Ohio State 8-3-3 56 7
[b][u]8 Princeton 7-2-0 47 8
9 Harvard        5-0-0 30 9[/u][/b]
10 Minnesota Duluth 7-4-1 19 10

Others receiving votes: Boston University 5, Mercyhurst 1


[RichH]

Welp, from that... we could be 2.

We are indeed #2 in the USCHO poll. USA Today is always late.

13 first place votes. Closer to 1 than 3. Harvard up 3 slots to #10.

[andyw2100]

We are indeed #2 in the USCHO poll. USA Today is always late.

Second in USAToday poll too, with 15 first place votes vs. 19 for Minnesota State.

[Trotsky]

Cornell men have not had 13+ first place votes in November since at least 1996.

[osorojo]

Cornell's newest ranking saves me a lot of trouble. You have no idea much time I have wasted over 55 years of scrolling down through the rankings.

[billhoward]

Cornell men have not had 13+ first place votes in November since at least 1996.

Thank you, Lori Loughlin, for buying us a couple votes

[billhoward]

Like those years of reading the newspaper agate and wasting time trying to see how Cornell basketball did, when you can't remember who they played, and the agate is sorted by the name of the winning team.

[Trotsky]

Cornell's newest ranking saves me a lot of trouble. You have no idea much time I have wasted over 55 years of scrolling down through the rankings.

First rule of Italian driving.

[Trotsky]

Like those years of reading the newspaper agate and wasting time trying to see how Cornell basketball did, when you can't remember who they played, and the agate is sorted by the name of the winning team.

In that case it was simple to infer how they did.

[Jim Hyla]

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[b]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Poll[/b]
[b]Men's Poll (2019-20 Season, Week #8 - Nov. 18)[/b]

Rank    School            (First)   Last Week   Record Weeks in Top 15
1 Minnesota State Univ (19) 488   T-1 8-1-1 8
[b][u]2 Cornell University,  (15) 483   4 6-0-0 8[/u][/b]
3 University Notre Dame,    413 3 8-1-1 8
4 University of Denver,     377 T-1 8-2-2 8
5 Penn State University,    356 8 9-2-0 8
6 University North Dakota,  342 9 8-1-2 4
7 University Massachusetts, 271 5 7-3-0 8
[b][u]8 Harvard University,       253 12 5-0-0 3[/u][/b]
[b][u]9 Clarkson University,      233 7 8-3-1 8[/u][/b]
10 Univer Minnesota Duluth,  199 6 5-4-1 8
11 Ohio State University,    154 11 6-3-1 8
12 Boston College,           133 NR 7-4-0 6
13 Providence College,       130 10 6-4-2 8
14 Northeastern University,   73 14 6-4-2 8
15 Bowling Green State        40 NR 7-4-0 1

Others Receiving Votes: University of Massachusetts Lowell, 33;
University of Nebraska Omaha, 29; University of Wisconsin, 19;
Northern Michigan University, 14; University of Maine, 13;
Western Michigan University, 12; University of Michigan, 11;
[b][u]Quinnipiac University, 4.[/u][/b]