Polls 2019-20

[Trotsky]

This actually got me looking at +/-, which is very good this year for us (as would be expected with even strength dominance).

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Cornell +/- leaders:

18 Locke
17 Mitchell
16 Donaldson
15 Green
14 Barron
12 Malott
10 Kaldis
10 Malinski


Betts, Bauld, and Haiskanen are -1, befitting guys who are out there against top lines.

Having forwards rival d-men for the lead despite the difference in ice time impresses me.

[upprdeck]

You wonder what some of these numbers would be if the PK was operating a bit better.

[Swampy]

Good questions deserve good answers. I visit this site to read facts and opinions about Cornell hockey games, preferably written in English. Beyond what's revealed in the box score I little enjoy and learn less about Cornell Hockey from charts, graphs, and columns of statistics - but then I'm retired and I don't have to put up with that crap any more.

Two things I would add to what's already been said:
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• Besides occasionally gaining insights into Cornell hockey, this forum has wonderful, usually intelligent, humor and camaraderie.
• Speaking for myself, the statistics often help me take off my red-colored glasses when comparing Cornell to other teams.

[Swampy]

You wonder what some of these numbers would be if the PK was operating a bit better.

You're not the only one.

Cornell's outstanding first half is protecting the Big Red somewhat from a difficult January in which the team went 3-1-4 – not a horrible stretch, but one that certainly would have done more damage to Cornell's PWR were it not for that first half.

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And I bet Schafer does too:

"Our penalty killing sucked — there's no other adjective to describe it," Schafer said. "We got everything resolved a couple weeks ago, and now we're right back to making the same stupid blunders previously. We gotta get back to work and get the job done because it's just something that pisses me off as a coach that we can't be consistent in our penalty killing."

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 ::bang::

[osorojo]

"Our penalty killing sucked" - Coach Schafer  Now THAT's the kind of factual information I prefer about a hockey game. It's crystal clear, without decimal points, and conveys a bit of human emotion without a hint of pseudoscience.

[redice]

And I bet Schafer does too:

"Our penalty killing sucked — there's no other adjective to describe it," Schafer said. "We got everything resolved a couple weeks ago, and now we're right back to making the same stupid blunders previously. We gotta get back to work and get the job done because it's just something that pisses me off as a coach that we can't be consistent in our penalty killing."

I very much like Schafer's use of the word "we" in that statement.  That show's he's also taking responsibility for the poor PK and not just pointing fingers at the players.   Nice!!

[nshapiro]

Wow - you aspire for "valuable?"  Way outta my league.  I'd settle for being thought to provide mildly interesting or amusing inputs occasionally.  

I'll give you "mildly."  Perhaps even "tepidly."  I think I'd stop short at "moderately," though.  That's a high bar.

I too suffer from delusions of adequacy

[KenP]

You wonder what some of these numbers would be if the PK was operating a bit better.

On a power play, a player gets a minus when his team surrenders a short-handed goal, but doesn't get a plus if his team scores. On the penalty kill, he gets a plus if his team scores a short-handed goal, but doesn't get a minus if he surrenders a power-play goal.  (ref: http://a.espncdn.com/nhl/columns/hradek_ej/1474603.html )

[marty]

"Our penalty killing sucked" - Coach Schafer  Now THAT's the kind of factual information I prefer about a hockey game. It's crystal clear, without decimal points, and conveys a bit of human emotion without a hint of pseudoscience.

Yes,  but it sucked to the Nth degree.

[Swampy]

And I bet Schafer does too:

"Our penalty killing sucked — there's no other adjective to describe it," Schafer said. "We got everything resolved a couple weeks ago, and now we're right back to making the same stupid blunders previously. We gotta get back to work and get the job done because it's just something that pisses me off as a coach that we can't be consistent in our penalty killing."

I very much like Schafer's use of the word "we" in that statement.  That show's he's also taking responsibility for the poor PK and not just pointing fingers at the players.   Nice!!

Ultimately a team's performance depends on the coach. The coach's recruiting is responsible for the talent on the team, and the talent's performance depends on the coach's ability to get the most out of that talent.

Last year we had one of the best PK's in the country, but this year with more depth and fewer injuries we have one of the worst. Same coach, better personnel situation, worse results. It's hard to understand why.

This coming week will be a palpable test of Mike and the rest of the staff's coaching ability. We'll see the proof in next weekend's pudding. Let's hope the problem can be solved in just one week.

But the quotation in redice's signature makes me wonder. If faced with a team like this, one with talent that clearly makes it a potential NC but a PK that sucks, WWND?

Any thoughts?

[ugarte]

fix your tags, savages

[redice]

And I bet Schafer does too:

"Our penalty killing sucked — there's no other adjective to describe it," Schafer said. "We got everything resolved a couple weeks ago, and now we're right back to making the same stupid blunders previously. We gotta get back to work and get the job done because it's just something that pisses me off as a coach that we can't be consistent in our penalty killing."

I very much like Schafer's use of the word "we" in that statement.  That show's he's also taking responsibility for the poor PK and not just pointing fingers at the players.   Nice!!

Ultimately a team's performance depends on the coach. The coach's recruiting is responsible for the talent on the team, and the talent's performance depends on the coach's ability to get the most out of that talent.

Last year we had one of the best PK's in the country, but this year with more depth and fewer injuries we have one of the worst. Same coach, better personnel situation, worse results. It's hard to understand why.

This coming week will be a palpable test of Mike and the rest of the staff's coaching ability. We'll see the proof in next weekend's pudding. Let's hope the problem can be solved in just one week.

But the quotation in redice's signature makes me wonder. If faced with a team like this, one with talent that clearly makes it a potential NC but a PK that sucks, WWND?

Any thoughts?

I agree whole-heartedly!   But, not all coaches bear responsibility for the negative side of their team's performance... You'll hear those types say:  "We" when their teams are good things and "They" when the team is is not.  I don't consider those to be good coaches.

[osorojo]

I suspect the most successful coaches use the word "you" rather than "we" when ascribing blame. Nobody wants to share the blame for someone else's mistakes. Unfortunately, I don't have the numbers/statistics to defend this claim.

[redice]

I suspect the most successful coaches use the word "you" rather than "we" when ascribing blame. Nobody wants to share the blame for someone else's mistakes. Unfortunately, I don't have the numbers/statistics to defend this claim.

So, the assumption here is that you don't consider Schafer to be successful?

[Give My Regards]

This forum could be far more stats-heavy than it is. There are all sorts of advanced hockey statistics that don't ever make it onto this forum but which give more color to a game and to a team than "shots" and "goals."

DRINK DEEP TO THE DREGS!!!

Every time I see "Fenwick" I think of Bill.  You still out there, old man?

Yup, still kicking, though I don't get to the rink anywhere near as often as I used to (life is what happens when you're busy making other plans, etc.)

And as far as the stat goes, no relation unfortunately. Nor the fishing rod guys.