Rules Changes?

[Al DeFlorio]

As well, the Men's and Women's Ice Hockey Rules Committee voted to remove the rule that required team members to shake hands after a game. Committee members think it is best for conferences or schools to decide postgame sportsmanship protocols rather than for a national rule to establish the only postgame sportsmanship protocol.

Kiss and make-up?

[upprdeck]

no one is making the kids play and in the ivies even less since they hold no scholie over a kids head. if you choose to go to school and to play what exactly are you going to sue about and how will any one prove it was hockey that lead to beeing sick when most of the kids are not following guidelines to start with..   if teams are being tested before every game thats about all they can hope to do.  but still i dont expect hockey until jan.

[Swampy]

no one is making the kids play and in the ivies even less since they hold no scholie over a kids head. if you choose to go to school and to play what exactly are you going to sue about and how will any one prove it was hockey that lead to beeing sick when most of the kids are not following guidelines to start with..   if teams are being tested before every game thats about all they can hope to do.  but still i dont expect hockey until jan.

2023?

[Trotsky]

no one is making the kids play

This is exactly the wrong point.  We are letting them play, which is wrong, because we are careless, weak, or stupid.

Obviously they want to play, otherwise they wouldn't have had the drive to do the ten thousand things that got them to this level.  Our responsibility is to be the adults who say, "you can't play."

The sin is not coercion, it's abrogation of responsibility.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

They're kids.  They understand in part, but want what they want.

Example:  I was speaking with my niece yesterday.  She'll be a freshman at UMass in the fall.  She is going to campus to live in the dorms, even though all her classes will be on-line.  She understands the risks, but wants as much of the college experience as possible.  Although she isn't looking forward to having a swab jammed up her nose to get on campus.

FWIW, her mom has said she won't be allowed back in the house.  I'm pretty sure she wasn't serious, but considering my sister was a germaphobe before Covid, you never know,

[osorojo]

Concur with responsible supervision.  This is why it is called "college hockey" rather than a "Hockey College".

[jtwcornell91]

It's official; 3 on 3 and shootouts.   Spinorama is verboten though.

The one change I do like though is the ability to pick which face off dot you want to take the draw in after the other team ices it.


https://www.uscho.com/2020/07/22/ncaa-approves-rule-changes-for-2020-21-hockey-season-pertaining-to-overtime-faceoffs-postgame-handshakes/

Ugh... 3-on-3 to decide a game is moronic.

Ugh indeed.  The article was a little unclear about some of the details; it sounds like shootouts will be up to the leagues, but will they still be ignored for tournament selection?  Is the point system still 2-1-0, or are overtime wins now in a different category?  The international rules include 3-on-3 OT followed by a shootout for all regular season games, and award 3 points total: 3-0 if the game is decided in regulation and 2-1 if it goes to OT or a shootout.  I could live with a system like that if they had 5 point games (like Hockey East did in their shootout experiment in the 90s), and awarded them 5-0 for regulation, 4-1 for OT, and 3-2 for a shootout.

[Trotsky]

We just had 7-inning double header games in the majors.  This is the darkest timeline.

[abmarks]

It's official; 3 on 3 and shootouts.   Spinorama is verboten though.

The one change I do like though is the ability to pick which face off dot you want to take the draw in after the other team ices it.


https://www.uscho.com/2020/07/22/ncaa-approves-rule-changes-for-2020-21-hockey-season-pertaining-to-overtime-faceoffs-postgame-handshakes/

Ugh... 3-on-3 to decide a game is moronic.

Ugh indeed.  The article was a little unclear about some of the details; it sounds like shootouts will be up to the leagues, but will they still be ignored for tournament selection?  Is the point system still 2-1-0, or are overtime wins now in a different category?  The international rules include 3-on-3 OT followed by a shootout for all regular season games, and award 3 points total: 3-0 if the game is decided in regulation and 2-1 if it goes to OT or a shootout.  I could live with a system like that if they had 5 point games (like Hockey East did in their shootout experiment in the 90s), and awarded them 5-0 for regulation, 4-1 for OT, and 3-2 for a shootout.

slightly more detail at chn   https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2020/07/27_NCAA-Finalizes-Rules-Changes.php

Teams tied at the end of regulation will now play 5-minute, 3-on-3 period to decide a winner. If still tied, conferences or in-season tournaments can choose to use a shootout for advancement. Regular-season non-conference games would just end in a tie.

For purposes of the Pairwise, i.e. the criteria that selects the NCAA Tournament field, these overtime games will count as 55 percent of a win.

[jkahn]

For purposes of the Pairwise, i.e. the criteria that selects the NCAA Tournament field, these overtime games will count as 55 percent of a win.

So for us purists/ math geeks, etc. at least they have very much minimized the value of the 3 vs. 3 and shootout, since a tie is 50% of a win and they've only added an extra 5% at stake for the gimmicky conclusion.  It's basically the equivalent of 1.1 points out of 2 for an overtime win, and I presume .9 out of 2 for an overtime loss.  However, that's only for pairwise and it will be  up to each league to decide how to handle it for standings purposes.

[Trotsky]

The ECAC can still demur, right?

This is a good opportunity to scrap overtime and have 60-min ties.  The other conference don't matter.  "The wogs begin at Conte."

[abmarks]

The ECAC can still demur, right?

This is a good opportunity to scrap overtime and have 60-min ties.  The other conference don't matter.  "The wogs begin at Conte."

No. No demurring.  3 on 3 is now ncaa wide.

[Scersk '97]

The ECAC can still demur, right?

This is a good opportunity to scrap overtime and have 60-min ties.  The other conference don't matter.  "The wogs begin at Conte."

If only, right? It's really hard to get your head around what a waste these 3-on-3 overtimes will be. Why risk player injury for 5% of a win?

[jtwcornell91]

We just had 7-inning double header games in the majors.  This is the darkest timeline.

I don't mind 7-inning games, since they were standard in the adult amateur leagues I watched in my adolescence.  I always had the feeling that a 9-inning game dragged on, but maybe that was my teenage attention span.  Much weirder were the 7+9 inning double headers they had in college summer ball in California, where they switched to 9+7 if the first game was tied after 7.

[jtwcornell91]

For purposes of the Pairwise, i.e. the criteria that selects the NCAA Tournament field, these overtime games will count as 55 percent of a win.

So for us purists/ math geeks, etc. at least they have very much minimized the value of the 3 vs. 3 and shootout, since a tie is 50% of a win and they've only added an extra 5% at stake for the gimmicky conclusion.  It's basically the equivalent of 1.1 points out of 2 for an overtime win, and I presume .9 out of 2 for an overtime loss.  However, that's only for pairwise and it will be  up to each league to decide how to handle it for standings purposes.

Ugh, seriously, 55%?  What about shootouts?  Are those 55-45 as well, or do they just count as ties?

I guess it's just as well this season will probably not actually happen anyway.