Rules Changes?

[osorojo]

The overwhelming compulsion to ALWAYS have a clear winner and a clear loser does not reflect +90% of human endeavors.The arithmetic involved with including ties in competitive ranking is not that difficult. Save playoffs for the playoffs and make regular sports a slice of life.

[jkahn]

Jesus fuck.  Just have a wet t-shirt contest.  My money's on Mike.

3 on 3 is entertaining. Like, I'd watch some sort of 3 on 3 hockey league.

As an OT tiebreaker, you might as well flip a coin. At the very least, they better implement some sort of point situation where an OT loser gets a point, because it's a shame to lose in OT on something as random as 3 on 3.

In Europe (and internationally) they have a zero-sum point system where a regulation winner gets 3 points (and the loser 0), while a winner in OT or a shootout gets 2 points (and the loser gets 1).  The OT is 3-on-3; I went to one game which went to OT, and it was entertaining/exciting, but I still really don't see the point, although I guess I'd rather have it decided in an OT with weird rules than a shootout.  But the current (soon to be former) college system still seems best: full marks for winning under the standard rules in OT, and a tie if no one pulls it off.

I would also be more comfortable with giving a point for losing in OT if it didn't count the same as losing a shootout.  Like make the points 5-0 for regulation, 4-1 for OT, and 3-2 for a shootout.

I'd definitely prefer to leave it as it is. I totally agree that every game should have the same value.  I hate that in the NHL an overtime win and and overtime loss give a team more points than a regulation win and loss.  As a fan of the Blackhawks, Islanders and any team with a Cornellian, I watch a lot of games without those teams and root for the game not to go into overtime, so only 2 points are awarded.  With a 3-2-1-0 system, at least a 3 on 3 or shootout win would only be equivalent to 1 1/3 points out of 2 and the loss equivalent to 2/3 of a point out of 2.
Strangely, of the 12 members of the rules committee, which includes men's and women's hockey and D-1 through D-3, 3 of the members come from the ECAC (Dartmouth, Yale and Quinnipiac).
http://web1.ncaa.org/committees/committees_roster.jsp?CommitteeName=IHRULES

[Trotsky]

The third point is a sales tool for more teams to advertise a winning record.  If you redo all the standings since the third point was added as 2-point games with wins and losses for all games decided in reg or OT and ties for all games tied after OT, you get a half dozen rank order changes over 15 seasons.

As shorthand, when trying to figure out a team's real record just add ties to losses.  The Bruins aren't 44-14-12 .714, they're 44-26 .629.  Still pretty good but not some fucking superteam.  The third point pumps them up like Dump's Viagra.  And just as uselessly.

Third points are bad and the people who like them are bad.

[Al DeFlorio]

In all seriousness, most things in society eventually seem to be crushed under the notion that "more" or "bigger" is always better, e.g., more overtimes, more piped-in music, more TV time outs, bigger pretzels, what have you. I hate to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but sometimes I wish we would try "less."

Imagine going to a (regular-season) game and having a really firm idea of when it's going to end? Bliss.

I too would appreciate having my lawn free of youths.

Yes, I would appreciate if they would keep it down. They're disturbing my nightly warm milk.

Would that be cow's milk, monsieur, or mother's milk?

As another old dude, I am perfectly fine with ties after a 5 minute OT, but that view is clearly passé.

+2

[jtwcornell91]

Jesus fuck.  Just have a wet t-shirt contest.  My money's on Mike.

3 on 3 is entertaining. Like, I'd watch some sort of 3 on 3 hockey league.

As an OT tiebreaker, you might as well flip a coin. At the very least, they better implement some sort of point situation where an OT loser gets a point, because it's a shame to lose in OT on something as random as 3 on 3.

In Europe (and internationally) they have a zero-sum point system where a regulation winner gets 3 points (and the loser 0), while a winner in OT or a shootout gets 2 points (and the loser gets 1).  The OT is 3-on-3...

The obvious solution is to eliminate overtime entirely. Bring back ties at the end of regulation!

In all seriousness, most things in society eventually seem to be crushed under the notion that "more" or "bigger" is always better, e.g., more overtimes, more piped-in music, more TV time outs, bigger pretzels, what have you. I hate to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but sometimes I wish we would try "less."

Imagine going to a (regular-season) game and having a really firm idea of when it's going to end? Bliss.

I like having a minimal OT, because it feels weird knowing that a team down by a goal late in the game can tie, but not win.  Having grown up on baseball and football, I feel that a game should be either out of reach or winnable, not something in between.

[Trotsky]

I like having a minimal OT, because it feels weird knowing that a team down by a goal late in the game can tie, but not win.

That doesn't follow.  Of course they can win.  Score faster.

[marty]

Small high schools in upstate New York used to play 8 man football.  It's  done with no tackles and two running backs. Maybe football overtimes could be played with 8.

::barf::

[scoop85]

Small high schools in upstate New York used to play 8 man football.  It's  done with no tackles and two running backs. Maybe football overtimes could be played with 8.

::barf::

A number of the smaller schools in upstate NY are still playing the 8 man game.

[upprdeck]

its a number growing every year in the areas outside the bigger cities.. its at the c/d level now as teams struggle to find 20+ kids to make a team.

[Trotsky]

I'm surprised small schools haven't shut football down.  Insurance has to be crazy now.  You don't see much bear baiting these days ether.

[Beeeej]

Insurance has to be crazy now.  You don't see much bear baiting these days ether.

Another victim of Title IX.

[upprdeck]

its also still the sport that brings in the most money and has the most kids participating in many places.

maybe they should shut down soccer since way more kids are getting hurt there especially on the girls side with concussions.

[marty]

Tie games,   MLB!?

Why not just play the extra innings with two outfielders and no shortstop?

[Dafatone]

Tie games,   MLB!?

Why not just play the extra innings with two outfielders and no shortstop?

I'm okay with it for this season and this season only.

Besides, this season isn't happening. If they somehow manage to come to an agreement, they'll get the season started and then shut it down because of covid anyway.

[French Rage]

Steal less dumb than adding DH to the NL.