Opponent News 19-20

[Rita]

Anybody remember when UVM left the ECAC to improve their program?

yes. and I remember that line Perrin, Reid(?) and St. Louis. they were so damn quick.
and they there was the hazing scandal.......

[osorojo]

Soon the Cambridge-Boston streets & roads will devolve into a permanent Gordian Gridlock and Boston-area athletes will have to walk to the airport carrying their hockey gear. The armada of corporate helicopters will preclude escape by air for lowly college-level athletes. Wait and see.

[French Rage]

Anybody remember when UVM left the ECAC to improve their program?

An elephant never forgets.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Anybody remember when UVM left the ECAC to improve their program?

An elephant never forgets.

+1

[Scersk '97]

Watched the last part of the QU-Colgate game tonight. Colgate's got some jam on offense.

Quinnipiac? Best chances came on the power play, particularly one after a dive in the early 3rd.

[profudge]

And Michigan State takes down #3 Notre Dame 3-2 today!!

[Jim Hyla]

Not opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week.

[andyw2100]

Not opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week.

Are you pointing this out because that goal was scored off a stick quite a bit higher than our 2003 frozen four no-goal?

[cth95]

I was thinking something very similar.

[Jim Hyla]

Not opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week.

Are you pointing this out because that goal was scored off a stick quite a bit higher than our 2003 frozen four no-goal?

If only......

[Trotsky]

Not opponents, but check out the #1 USCHO Play of the Week.

Are you pointing this out because that goal was scored off a stick quite a bit higher than our 2003 frozen four no-goal?

That was my reaction.

[Iceberg]

Yale getting throttled at BC, although I don't think that game means very much for the pairwise. Certainly doesn't help the conference

[dbilmes]

I wasn't sure where to put this post, but since Iceberg just mentioned Yale, I thought I'd throw it here. Interesting college hockey column, especially in the section about coaches whose jobs may be on the line, and the discussion about why Yale was able to dominate Cornell for a while but can no longer do so.

[Trotsky]

I wasn't sure where to put this post, but since Iceberg just mentioned Yale, I thought I'd throw it here. Interesting college hockey column, especially in the section about coaches whose jobs may be on the line, and the discussion about why Yale was able to dominate Cornell for a while but can no longer do so.

That is interesting but I have a question about the numbers.

My understanding is that HYP got serious about full financial support for Mere Mortals in two stages.  In Stage I they made tuition (and perhaps expenses) virtually free for the Poors.   I don't know the timeline so I'm guessing in the 90s.  The other five with our smaller endowments took a long, long time to catch up, perhaps because we couldn't afford it, perhaps because the degree of enlightenment in the tier 2 Ivies is roughly equivalent to a 1850s plantation owner with a well-stocked library he never visits.  But finally, begrudgingly the other 5 caught up just in time for...

... Stage II, in which HYP just said fuck it and filled in the Middle Class donut hole.  If you were Plutey McFuckface you still had to pay full freight but otherwise tuition became a fiction like MSRP: a number you use for bragging rights with no real world meaning (since the only people who ever pay it can find it in their couch).  

And Stage II is a place where the other 5 either cannot or will not go, ever.

Now, maybe our fine hockey recruits are covered disproportionally by Stage I and so this won't impact the program. Although hockey in the States not beginning with "M" has become dominated by rich assholes, in Canada it still seems to be a Great Leveler, like drinking and unrestrained political violence.  Hypothetically.  Hope so, because if we're fighting over what Joan Williams calls PMEs ("professional-managerial elites" -- the people who get Cornell degrees so the rich will pay them to run the shit they own; you know... us), we are going to lose to HYP because they are now subsidizing them.

[CU2007]

I wasn't sure where to put this post, but since Iceberg just mentioned Yale, I thought I'd throw it here. Interesting college hockey column, especially in the section about coaches whose jobs may be on the line, and the discussion about why Yale was able to dominate Cornell for a while but can no longer do so.

That is interesting but I have a question about the numbers.

My understanding is that HYP got serious about full financial support for Mere Mortals in two stages.  In Stage I they made tuition (and perhaps expenses) virtually free for the Poors.   I don't know the timeline so I'm guessing in the 90s.  The other five with our smaller endowments took a long, long time to catch up, perhaps because we couldn't afford it, perhaps because the degree of enlightenment in the tier 2 Ivies is roughly equivalent to a 1850s plantation owner with a well-stocked library he never visits.  But finally, begrudgingly the other 5 caught up just in time for...

... Stage II, in which HYP just said fuck it and filled in the Middle Class donut hole.  If you were Plutey McFuckface you still had to pay full freight but otherwise tuition became a fiction like MSRP: a number you use for bragging rights with no real world meaning (since the only people who ever pay it can find it in their couch).  

And Stage II is a place where the other 5 either cannot or will not go, ever.

Now, maybe our fine hockey recruits are covered disproportionally by Stage I and so this won't impact the program. Although hockey in the States not beginning with "M" has become dominated by rich assholes, in Canada it still seems to be a Great Leveler, like drinking and unrestrained political violence.  Hypothetically.  Hope so, because if we're fighting over what Joan Williams calls PMEs ("professional-managerial elites" -- the people who get Cornell degrees so the rich will pay them to run the shit they own; you know... us), we are going to lose to HYP because they are now subsidizing them.

Wow, that was a really well written article and incredibly educational (at least for me). Also enjoyed your follow-up, Trotsky.