Cornell lacrosse 2020

Started by billhoward, May 06, 2019, 03:58:11 PM

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CU77

From the fanlax.com forum:

Quote from: faircornellThere was just now a rousing and inspiring Town Hall meeting on Zoom. There was a strong statement from the AD that everything within reason was done to keep Coach Milliman. There were really great presentations from Coach Buczek and Coach Stevens, as well as game film of successful plays. Included was a great analysis of Jeff Teat's tying goal versus PU. Players also presented their views of the program. There is no question that the program is in good hands with very able coaches and very strong alumni support.

Quote from: laxfan1313Highlights of tonight's ZOOM town hall meeting: (1) Coaches Buczek & Jordan have been in contact with all incoming freshmen and believe they all will attend Cornell: (2) $18.5 million has been raised toward the indoor fieldhouse out of a $25 million budget and two locations convenient to the athletic quad are being considered; (3) Andy Noel has secured permission to hire a third paid assistant coach.

Quote from: chousnakeI came away from the town hall very impressed with Buczek and Stevens. They are knowledgeable and mature young men. The town hall was reassuring on many fronts. It seems that the program is in good hands........

Quote from: faircornellThe AD noted a "ninth semester" process that a few Cornell athletes are going through. It's a two step process that involves the University Administration as well as the student's undergraduate college. My impression was that a few lacrosse athletes might be trying to do this.

And another interview (print) with CB:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/-cornell-guy-connor-buczek-looks-to-carry-on-big-red-momentum-tradition/56361

ugarte

i'd like to hear more about the "ninth semester" - is it academic or athletic? why? the tone of the internet - and especially from assholes like me - can sound reflexively adversarial but i'm curious about what it means, that's all.

dag14

The Ivy League requires that a student-athlete have an academic reason to stay in school beyond 8 semesters, not just an athletic one.  In the past, in order to have a 9th semester approved, the student-athlete generally was expected to make the request fairly well in advance of the 9th semester, putting forward an academic plan that showed a compelling reason to stay on campus.  Any plan needs to be endorsed by the student's faculty advisor and/or college administration. Examples that I know have been approved include completing a second major or a minor where required courses are offered at the same time or only in one semester so that fitting all needed classes into 8 semesters is impossible.  A student with a weak academic record can make an argument for taking a lighter course load to boost GPA [to be competitive in the job market] so it takes longer to complete the 120 credits needed to graduate.  

The challenge in the current situation is the last-minute nature of the student's decision so the expectation of a clear long-term plan as justification for granting a request has to go out the window.  Unless the student's course of study is screwed up by the campus closure [no access to labs, etc.] it would seem to me that the League will grant a 9th semester to very few students unless they relax the rules entirely.  And since the Ivy League already announced that it would not grant a "5th year" across the board, I am willing to bet the League won't be very flexible in reviewing individual requests.

upprdeck

if you take course as pass fail yet you need/want to improve your GPA that would seem to fall into this.  So if they get a ninth they stay off campus in the fall?

dag14

The disruption in instruction in theory could set a student back academically this spring.  If you fail to complete courses because you are hospitalized, a family member dies or you are seriously impacted by emotional issues and you would have a justification to extend your time at Cornell.  Want to play a spring sport?  Take a leave of absence in the fall and come back in the spring.  That has happened in the past, especially with injuries.

upprdeck

the fall is only marginally better than the spring right now.. pretty easy to make a statement that the these 2 semesters are messed up


margolism

In competitive news, TD Ierlan will be back playing for Yale next year...

RichH

Quote from: margolismIn competitive news, TD Ierlan will be back playing for Yale next year...

Being a Cornell fan is a constant lesson in feeling everything that "almost was."

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: margolismIn competitive news, TD Ierlan will be back playing for Yale next year...
I have to say the rationalization Yale came up with to allow this is true bullshit.
Al DeFlorio '65

scoop85

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: margolismIn competitive news, TD Ierlan will be back playing for Yale next year...
I have to say the rationalization Yale came up with to allow this is true bullshit.

Well it might reduce the whining from other Ivies if Teat and maybe some of our other seniors come back too.

Swampy

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: margolismIn competitive news, TD Ierlan will be back playing for Yale next year...
I have to say the rationalization Yale came up with to allow this is true bullshit.

Well it might reduce the whining from other Ivies if Teat and maybe some of our other seniors come back too.

Quote from: The Daily GazetteThe Ivy League had previously said that seniors would not be able to withdraw and re-enroll for athletic reasons, but according to the Inside Lacrosse report, Ierlan is exempt from the Ivy League's "eight-semester" rule as he has only been on campus at Yale for four semesters since transferring from UAlbany. (Former UAlbany lacrosse star Ierlan picked first in MLL Draft, but will return to Yale)

Wow! How unusually generous of the Ivy League. Any Ivy can tap the transfer wire and, for example, recruit a rising senior from another school, and have that player around for the next three years. Since the Ivy school is likely to be more academically challenging than the recruit's former school, the extra three years would be academically warranted, e.g., for someone who wants to switch from a majoring in photography at Loyola to engineering physics at Cornell.

CU77

Engineering physics? That was my major! I'd have a much harder time with photography ...

Swampy

Quote from: CU77Engineering physics? That was my major! I'd have a much harder time with photography ...

Good thing you went to Cornell rather than Loyola.

CU77

Absolutely!

Incidentally, according to the Simulated Season run by lacrossereference.com, Cornell is the #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. The Big Red finished 12-2, with one-goal regular-season losses to Yale and Princeton, but then won the ILT from the #4 seed, beating #1 Penn 14-8 in the semis and #2 Yale in the final, 17-11.

The first round NCAA game against BU is Saturday at 1:15:

https://lacrossereference.com/game-win-probabilities/cornell_boston_u_20200509/

EDIT: SimCornell simloses to SimBU, 15-6 ...

Time to start the 2021 thread!