2019-03-02: Cornell 2 Clarkson 2 (ot)

Started by Trotsky, March 01, 2019, 10:25:07 PM

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Trotsky

We have somehow managed to go just 1-5-3 in our last 9 RS-enders. That sole win was rather marvelous.

Trotsky

Playoffstatus' odds for the final standing:

     
       1   2   3   4
Cor  .46 .08 .26 .20
Qpc  .36 .37 .16 .10
Hvd  .10 .28 .37 .24
Clk  .08 .26 .20 .46

Scersk '97

In this kind of road game, all one can reasonably hope for is a tie. A win would be icing on the cake.

A tie gets us a share of the regular-season "title" (if you care about those sorts of things) and at least the second seed in all permutations. I'd be very happy with that, considering.

CU2007

What's the tie breaker with clarkson if we lose?

BearLover

I believe the tiebreaker would be league wins--someone correct me if I'm wrong. I also think a tie would be above expectation, but we could really use a win.

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLoverI believe the tiebreaker would be league wins--someone correct me if I'm wrong. I also think a tie would be above expectation, but we could really use a win.

It's head to head (we'd tie them) and then league wins (they'd win).

We have the tiebreaker over Harvard and lose it over Clarkson and Q. Long story short, Q wins any tiebreak they wind up in that we're also in. If we tie Harvard and Clarkson, we win that.

Trotsky

1. 30 Qpc
2. 30 Cor
3. 28 Clk
4. 28 Hvd

Chalk would mean an early game SF rematch in Placid.

Scersk '97


1.  30 Quinnipiac
    30 Cornell
3.  28 Clarkson
    28 Harvard
5.  23 Dartmouth
    23 Yale
7.  22 Union
8.  21 Brown
9.  18 Princeton
10. 17 Colgate
11. 16 RPI
12.  8 SLU


Chalk in the first round would also mean we're the recipients of the Union shit sandwich in the second round.

andyw2100

Quote from: Trotsky1. 30 Qpc
2. 30 Cor
3. 28 Clk
4. 28 Hvd

Chalk would mean an early game SF rematch in Placid.

Wouldn't it be a late game rematch? Quinnipiac would play Harvard in the early game, no?

Trotsky

So, final standings and 1R matchups, according to ECAC site.

01 Qpc
02 Cor
03 Clk
04 Hvd

05 Drt
06 Yal
07 Uni
08 Brn

09 Prn
10 Cgt
11 RPI
12 SLU

12 SLU @ 05 Drt
11 RPI @ 06 Yal
10 Cgt @ 07 Uni
09 Prn @ 08 Brn

Not sure I trust them.

Trotsky

Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Trotsky1. 30 Qpc
2. 30 Cor
3. 28 Clk
4. 28 Hvd

Chalk would mean an early game SF rematch in Placid.

Wouldn't it be a late game rematch? Quinnipiac would play Harvard in the early game, no?
Yes.  I am an idiot.

Scersk '97

Quote from: TrotskyNot sure I trust them.

John's script verifies, and I trust him.  ::burnout::

Dafatone

Another game against Clarkson wouldn't be bad, because this tie flipped our comparison with Arizona State (flipping common opponents), and maybe another win against Clarkson would flip it back.

However, I'm looking at the pairwise before tonight, and I swear we shouldn't have ever won it in the first place. We were behind in common opponents going into tonight. So, uh, yeah.

jkahn

Quote from: DafatoneAnother game against Clarkson wouldn't be bad, because this tie flipped our comparison with Arizona State (flipping common opponents), and maybe another win against Clarkson would flip it back.

However, I'm looking at the pairwise before tonight, and I swear we shouldn't have ever won it in the first place. We were behind in common opponents going into tonight. So, uh, yeah.
No, we were ahead of ASU on common opponents until tonight. The formula is taking an average of the winning percentage against each of the common opponents, not adding all the wins, losses and ties and figuring a percentage,  It used to be the other way but was changed a few years ago.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Dafatone

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: DafatoneAnother game against Clarkson wouldn't be bad, because this tie flipped our comparison with Arizona State (flipping common opponents), and maybe another win against Clarkson would flip it back.

However, I'm looking at the pairwise before tonight, and I swear we shouldn't have ever won it in the first place. We were behind in common opponents going into tonight. So, uh, yeah.
No, we were ahead of ASU on common opponents until tonight. The formula is taking an average of the winning percentage against each of the common opponents, not adding all the wins, losses and ties and figuring a percentage,  It used to be the other way but was changed a few years ago.

That's silly. Maybe it's silly either way. But we were 5-3 against common opponents, ASU was 5-2, and we were ahead.

Thanks for the explanation.