Scrivens / Olympic Men's Hockey

[Beeeej]

A factor in favor of leaving right after the Olympics is that the Bruins are 3rd in the NHL in points at the moment.  He'd be going to a team with ~20 games left in the regular season that has a good chance at a deep Stanley Cup run.

Even if I thought he was ready to go pro at the end of this season, I have a hard time imagining him leaving now, when Harvard still has a chance - however minor - of making a playoff run. I would think he'd fight for an ECAC title and a spot in the NCAAs to the bitter end, then make the jump. Is it no longer possible under current NHL deadlines to do that, as Ken Dryden did in 1969?

[BearLover]

A factor in favor of leaving right after the Olympics is that the Bruins are 3rd in the NHL in points at the moment.  He'd be going to a team with ~20 games left in the regular season that has a good chance at a deep Stanley Cup run.

Even if I thought he was ready to go pro at the end of this season, I have a hard time imagining him leaving now, when Harvard still has a chance - however minor - of making a playoff run. I would think he'd fight for an ECAC title and a spot in the NCAAs to the bitter end, then make the jump. Is it no longer possible under current NHL deadlines to do that, as Ken Dryden did in 1969?

Plenty of players, including several recent Cornellians, have gone pro immediately after their last college game. Sean Collins, for instance, did it for Cornell (I think there are quite a few other recent examples too). I believe Sean returned to school once the season ended, though he only played in the AHL. A more high-profile example is Chris Kreider, who scored five goals in the playoffs for the Rangers the same year he won a national championship at BC.

[Beeeej]

A factor in favor of leaving right after the Olympics is that the Bruins are 3rd in the NHL in points at the moment.  He'd be going to a team with ~20 games left in the regular season that has a good chance at a deep Stanley Cup run.

Even if I thought he was ready to go pro at the end of this season, I have a hard time imagining him leaving now, when Harvard still has a chance - however minor - of making a playoff run. I would think he'd fight for an ECAC title and a spot in the NCAAs to the bitter end, then make the jump. Is it no longer possible under current NHL deadlines to do that, as Ken Dryden did in 1969?

Plenty of players, including several recent Cornellians, have gone pro immediately after their last college game. Sean Collins, for instance, did it for Cornell (I think there are quite a few other recent examples too). I believe Sean returned to school once the season ended, though he only played in the AHL. A more high-profile example is Chris Kreider, who scored five goals in the playoffs for the Rangers the same year he won a national championship at BC.

I kind of thought so.

[ugarte]

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the 4x3 to start the ot will haunt me. there was a guy camped in front and we just uselessly slid it around the outside for 30 seconds.

[Beeeej]

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the 4x3 to start the ot will haunt me. there was a guy camped in front and we just uselessly slid it around the outside for 30 seconds.

That was the single biggest waste of a PP opportunity I think I've ever seen, and I had to watch Cornell's PP in the mid-90s.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Scrivens injured in the CAN-FIN game.  Upper body injury.

[billhoward]

Scrivens was not in goal in Canada's 4-3 loss to Germany. Our visions of hockey and 6 gold medals for Cornellians are dashed.

[TimV]

Didn't that dashing happen after the Women's game was decided?

[dbilmes]

Nice to see Scrivens celebrating on the ice with his teammates after Canada wins the bronze medal. Too bad he got injured and couldn't play in the medal round. It was a crazy third period in the Canada-Czech Republic bronze medal game.

[Trotsky]

That's the first bronze in Cornell Olympic hockey history.

[The Rancor]

am i crazy for thinking bronze is better than silver? you have to WIN a bronze, the silver you get for losing.

[upprdeck]

you still have to win to get the silver..  you just didnt lose the last game.

[andyw2100]

am i crazy for thinking bronze is better than silver? you have to WIN a bronze, the silver you get for losing.

There was some study done some time ago, that may even have been done by a Cornell researcher, that showed, based on facial expression or something, that bronze medal winners were on average happier than silver medal winners. If I can find anything about the study in a quick search I'll post it.

Edit: I was correct about Cornell researchers being involved. (That may be why I knew about it.) Here's an article:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/why-bronze-medalists-are-happier-than-silver-winners/

[ugarte]

am i crazy for thinking bronze is better than silver? you have to WIN a bronze, the silver you get for losing.

There was some study done some time ago, that may even have been done by a Cornell researcher, that showed, based on facial expression or something, that bronze medal winners were on average happier than silver medal winners. If I can find anything about the study in a quick search I'll post it.

Edit: I was correct about Cornell researchers being involved. (That may be why I knew about it.) Here's an article:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/why-bronze-medalists-are-happier-than-silver-winners/

I think in general finishing a close second is worse psychologically than finishing a distant third (at the time, at least) but I don't think, for example, the jockey in second behind Secretariat would rather have been in third. In bracket-elimination sports, there has to be some lift to winning the consolation game instead of finishing on a downer.

[mountainred]

So, Senifeld's routine had a scientific basis? Seinfeld Silver Medal