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Started by Trotsky, February 10, 2018, 11:42:28 AM

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BigRedHockeyFan

Galajda looked unphased on Ryan Lough's breakaway.  It's on the highlight video on the ECAC website.  Galajda now leads the nation in GAA (1.47) and shutouts (8).

French Rage

And his shutout streak is now back to 158:15 if my math is right.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Beeeej

Quote from: upprdecktoo many ice is a pretty loosely called penalty most of the time.. really if he puck isnt close and the extra guys arent involved in a play directly they rarely call it,

Unless I'm mistaken, if the puck isn't close and the extra guys aren't involved in a play directly, it's not a Too Many Men on the Ice infraction.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: upprdecktoo many ice is a pretty loosely called penalty most of the time.. really if he puck isnt close and the extra guys arent involved in a play directly they rarely call it,

Unless I'm mistaken, if the puck isn't close and the extra guys aren't involved in a play directly, it's not a Too Many Men on the Ice infraction.

There in is the problem of interpretation. The puck can even be close and if a player elects not to touch it, it may not be called. I've seen many times when a player lets a puck go by and doesn't touch it, because they're in a line change. But what constitutes "involved" is obviously open to interpretation.

From what I remember on the second call last night, neither player was involved with the puck, but the player coming on was well toward mid ice before the player coming off got to the bench.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

margolism

Following up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.

ACM

Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.

Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.

marty

Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.

Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.

:-)
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

margolism

Quote from: marty
Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.

Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.

:-)

The Niagara game was in 2017.  In calendar year 2018 he has played in six games (I defer to others regarding his on ice time in those games.)  In those six games Cornell has only allowed one goal.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: margolism
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.

Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.

:-)

The Niagara game was in 2017.  In calendar year 2018 he has played in six games (I defer to others regarding his on ice time in those games.)  In those six games Cornell has only allowed one goal.

While it's true that he has not played a full contingent of shifts, I think he is playing a lot better of late. Particularly at SLU he seemed to be playing more and with more confidence. Certainly not the same mistakes that he was making earlier. Hopefully it means he's getting more attuned to the college game, we need him.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

Quote from: margolism
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.
Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.
:-)
The Niagara game was in 2017.  In calendar year 2018 he has played in six games (I defer to others regarding his on ice time in those games.)  In those six games Cornell has only allowed one goal.
Nice escape from a near-pin. That was a very good use of stats until Arthur chimed in with an unfortunate reality check. Been a victim of that myself.

Trotsky

Quote from: billhowardNice escape from a near-pin. That was a very good use of stats until Arthur chimed in with an unfortunate reality check. Been a victim of that myself.
FWIW I had no problem understanding that OP was restricting scope to calendar 2018, possibly because it was stated in the post.

margolism

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: margolism
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.
Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.
:-)
The Niagara game was in 2017.  In calendar year 2018 he has played in six games (I defer to others regarding his on ice time in those games.)  In those six games Cornell has only allowed one goal.
Nice escape from a near-pin. That was a very good use of stats until Arthur chimed in with an unfortunate reality check. Been a victim of that myself.

Most of the time, the use of stats is highly selective - especially in sports, and especially with regards to in-season streaks.  

Regarding Cairns on ice time, or on ice time for any player, I wish player hockey statistics were normalized to adjust for total # of shifts and actual time on the ice.  It is much easier to be a points producer when you are placing 16 to 20 minutes per game versus six or seven.  Not to mention intangibles such as the ability to get into a better rhythm, etc.  Given the variance in on-ice time from player to player, this would give me a better sense of player contributions.

marty

Quote from: margolism
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: margolism
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.
Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.
:-)
The Niagara game was in 2017.  In calendar year 2018 he has played in six games (I defer to others regarding his on ice time in those games.)  In those six games Cornell has only allowed one goal.
Nice escape from a near-pin. That was a very good use of stats until Arthur chimed in with an unfortunate reality check. Been a victim of that myself.

Most of the time, the use of stats is highly selective - especially in sports, and especially with regards to in-season streaks.  

Regarding Cairns on ice time, or on ice time for any player, I wish player hockey statistics were normalized to adjust for total # of shifts and actual time on the ice....

I wish to go to the games and watch the symphony.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Jim Hyla

Quote from: margolism
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: margolism
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.
Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.
:-)
The Niagara game was in 2017.  In calendar year 2018 he has played in six games (I defer to others regarding his on ice time in those games.)  In those six games Cornell has only allowed one goal.
Nice escape from a near-pin. That was a very good use of stats until Arthur chimed in with an unfortunate reality check. Been a victim of that myself.

Most of the time, the use of stats is highly selective - especially in sports, and especially with regards to in-season streaks.  

Regarding Cairns on ice time, or on ice time for any player, I wish player hockey statistics were normalized to adjust for total # of shifts and actual time on the ice.  It is much easier to be a points producer when you are placing 16 to 20 minutes per game versus six or seven.  Not to mention intangibles such as the ability to get into a better rhythm, etc.  Given the variance in on-ice time from player to player, this would give me a better sense of player contributions.

But of course if you're playing 20 min vs. 6 min, it means the coaches think you're a better player. You can go on forever with this. What knid of situations are you thrown on the ice? Better players are in tougher situations. Better d'men might have decreased performance, just because of situations. Same for F/O men. Top offensive forwards might not be put in defensive situations. On and on, where we stop nobody knows.

I like letting the coaches worry about those things and just enjoying the symphony.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

margolism

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: margolism
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: margolism
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ACM
Quote from: margolismFollowing up on someone else's comment a while ago, in 2018, Cornell has only allowed one goal in the six games that Cairns has played.
Cairns has played in seven games. In the first game, Niagara scored four goals, two of which he was directly responsible for. In the remaining six games, Cornell has allowed only one goal; Cairns has spent most of those games watching from the bench, playing maybe one or two shifts a period.
:-)
The Niagara game was in 2017.  In calendar year 2018 he has played in six games (I defer to others regarding his on ice time in those games.)  In those six games Cornell has only allowed one goal.
Nice escape from a near-pin. That was a very good use of stats until Arthur chimed in with an unfortunate reality check. Been a victim of that myself.

Most of the time, the use of stats is highly selective - especially in sports, and especially with regards to in-season streaks.  

Regarding Cairns on ice time, or on ice time for any player, I wish player hockey statistics were normalized to adjust for total # of shifts and actual time on the ice.  It is much easier to be a points producer when you are placing 16 to 20 minutes per game versus six or seven.  Not to mention intangibles such as the ability to get into a better rhythm, etc.  Given the variance in on-ice time from player to player, this would give me a better sense of player contributions.

But of course if you're playing 20 min vs. 6 min, it means the coaches think you're a better player. You can go on forever with this. What knid of situations are you thrown on the ice? Better players are in tougher situations. Better d'men might have decreased performance, just because of situations. Same for F/O men. Top offensive forwards might not be put in defensive situations. On and on, where we stop nobody knows.

I like letting the coaches worry about those things and just enjoying the symphony.

I'm fine with better players getting more ice time - but when it comes to, say, scoring, that should be normalized against actual playing time.  I think the place where this really comes into play is scoring, where points per game is a commonly used metric.  True, better players get more ice time - so I would then assume that the amount of points they score per minute played would be higher than a 4th liner, on a per minutes played basis.