Injuries

[BearLover]

Whether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).

There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.

And you know this how?

Because he's not a fucking moron.

Yeah, but you edited out my follow-up question: Does it ever actually show up in the IJ? Or anywhere? I've been following CU hockey for a decade and I can't remember a single instance where something Schafer said at a luncheon or in an email ended up in an article. Most of the time Schafer will reveal injury information at the Coach's Club lunch that never even makes it into the email, let alone a newspaper. Unless you believe spies from other teams are paying $1000 for a Coach's Club membership and attending Schafer's lunches, there's no basis for what you're saying. I don't know why Schafer went public with the information this time, but he almost never does (and Brandon Thomas on Twitter has been equally tight-lipped about it when asked), despite lunch attendees being told the status of hurt players.

[CAS]

+1 (BearLover)

[ugarte]

Whether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).

There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.

And you know this how?

Because he's not a fucking moron.

Yeah, but you edited out my follow-up question: Does it ever actually show up in the IJ? Or anywhere? I've been following CU hockey for a decade and I can't remember a single instance where something Schafer said at a luncheon or in an email ended up in an article. Most of the time Schafer will reveal injury information at the Coach's Club lunch that never even makes it into the email, let alone a newspaper. Unless you believe spies from other teams are paying $1000 for a Coach's Club membership and attending Schafer's lunches, there's no basis for what you're saying. I don't know why Schafer went public with the information this time, but he almost never does (and Brandon Thomas on Twitter has been equally tight-lipped about it when asked), despite lunch attendees being told the status of hurt players.

My answer to this is if the coach is giving out info to insiders that the insiders manage against all odds to keep quiet. do not come to eLF and brag that you have insider information that discretion keeps you from revealing.

[Dafatone]

I wonder if any of us could get a chance to actually ask Schafer if he considers those emails private.

[RichH]

I wonder if any of us could get a chance to actually ask Schafer if he considers those emails private.

If only there were a sticky thread on this very forum. (edit: yeah, nothing really came of that Q&A, since it says it would happen at the beginning of this season. Or maybe those responsible just got too busy.)

[Swampy]

I wonder if any of us could get a chance to actually ask Schafer if he considers those emails private.

But even if he considers the emails private, other coaches still could learn what's in them by cheating.

[andyw2100]

do not come to eLF and brag that you have insider information that discretion keeps you from revealing.

I feel like this was directed at me and I don't feel like that's what I did.

Here's what I said in my first post, in response to Greg's post:

Note that people should be extremely circumspect about posting anything to this thread that is not public information, for obvious reasons.

Would you consider information on injuries from Coach Schafer, sent to whatever his e-mail distribution list is, to be "public" enough to post? I imagine many of us received an email message from him this afternoon which has the same information about Vanderlaan, and some additional information. I was going to share that info here, with a comment on the above, but will wait to make sure the consensus here (or just Greg's opinion) is that it is OK to do so.

I stated, and believed, that many members of eLynah had probably received the same email message that I did. That wasn't "bragging." I wanted to share the information, but when I read Greg's post thought that I better check first.

[daredevilcu]

Gotta wonder how many Clarkson players are hurting.  They have slacked off, starting with the Harvard tie.

Per Casey Jones, the Knights have had similar illness issues that Cornell has had the last couple weeks. I can say from personal experience that the flu has run rampant through Potsdam. A large contingent of alumni were up for the Brown/Yale weekend, half of us got the flu including me. I'm still shaking it off two weeks later, and it's a brutal one. The team was hit with it a couple weeks prior, so hopefully they were able to have a full week of practice this week and start getting back on track. The fatigue at the end of the weekend the last 3 weeks has been noticeable, and it wasn't like that at any point in the first semester.

[scoop85]

Gotta wonder how many Clarkson players are hurting.  They have slacked off, starting with the Harvard tie.

Per Casey Jones, the Knights have had similar illness issues that Cornell has had the last couple weeks. I can say from personal experience that the flu has run rampant through Potsdam. A large contingent of alumni were up for the Brown/Yale weekend, half of us got the flu including me. I'm still shaking it off two weeks later, and it's a brutal one. The team was hit with it a couple weeks prior, so hopefully they were able to have a full week of practice this week and start getting back on track. The fatigue at the end of the weekend the last 3 weeks has been noticeable, and it wasn't like that at any point in the first semester.

It is a tough grind, and both of our teams are seeing the effects of that.