Uniom 2/2/18

Started by Trotsky, January 30, 2018, 07:13:25 PM

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Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: upprdeckcrazy game.  as dominant first period as you will ever see..  Union stepped it the 2nd and won all the stick battles, caused some turnovers and got 3 2nd chance goals as Cornell had a tough time clearing the puck out..  yet at the same time Cornell when it got it deep had multiple long extended periods with control and tons of shot and actually outshot Union in the 2nd.  the 3rd was much more Cornells way, Union had a few chances,  Cornell again had extended cycle time missed 3-4 open nets,, and then the last 2 min with the goalie pulled it seemed like union won every draw and had the nice play to a cross ice pass and tough to tell if we made the save or it was shot high.

im not sure that union had more than 1-2 odd man entries into the zone all night, cornell must have had 10-12.

Whatever the waved off goal was Coach was not happy with the answer.

Donaldson looked like Collarbone the way he went off.

Galajda made that save.  It was right in front of me.

I was also told that Donaldson's been dealing with an on again / off again separated shoulder.

upprdeck

separated should wound not surprise me..  he was in a lot of pain and dragging the arm, too bad,  he seemed to be getting the jump back in his step again.


also late in the 2nd cornell had a mini break, i forget who, 11? anyway as he came in he went down, slid, and got up and attempted a shot..   did he not get tripped on that play?  i know the crowd though so?  I was thinking as he went down that it would be a penalty shot, but he somehow got back on his feet?

Trotsky

Quote from: upprdecklate in the 2nd cornell had a mini break, i forget who, 11? anyway as he came in he went down, slid, and got up and attempted a shot..   did he not get tripped on that play?  i know the crowd though so?  I was thinking as he went down that it would be a penalty shot, but he somehow got back on his feet?
This was just one of a dozen similar plays with CU forwards deking around a man or dropping a shoulder and sneaking under/around their man.  The usual suspects were Betts (11), Mitch (14),Bauld (9), and pre-injury Cam (7).

It didn't produce a lot tonight beyond ooos and ahs, but it was great to see and I'm sure it made U D-men think twice before pushing up into the play.

abmarks

Quote from: martySection L does not suck.  The second goal was wonderful to watch.

That looked almost like CCCP circa 1978

upprdeck

watched the replay of the no goal.. gonna have to hear what it possibly could have been..  maybe a skate touching the crease, dont see any goalie contact at all.  can you call contact that happens multiple plays earlier ?  strange that the linesman and the outside ref didnt question anything and the downlow ref waved it good, union didnt seem to complain?

did he push the leg and puck in?  it wasnt covered in anyway does that make a difference?

upprdeck

watched the replay with just under 4 to go in the 2nd.. it was betts that was hooked and tripped on the same play, even the union kid almost went down  after causing the contact.


Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ugarteSun livetweet says it was a crease violation https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/959598624169775104
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.
Al DeFlorio '65

marty

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarteSun livetweet says it was a crease violation https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/959598624169775104
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Interference seems like the only way that play could be overturned.  Do they only have the overhead camera shot or are there more views in use during regular season games?

I wish the CUA Youtube folks would show more play development with their recap videos. Vanderlaan's work on the second goal was great.  (They could also add slow motion replay when it adds  to the interest. I'd love to see Anthony's second goal at Harvard in slo-mo.)
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

ugarte

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarteSun livetweet says it was a crease violation https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/959598624169775104
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Interference seems like the only way that play could be overturned.  Do they only have the overhead camera shot or are there more views in use during regular season games?

I wish the CUA Youtube folks would show more play development with their recap videos. Vanderlaan's work on the second goal was great.  (They could also add slow motion replay when it adds  to the interest. I'd love to see Anthony's second goal at Harvard in slo-mo.)
yeah i also don't understand why the broadcast can't show replays (other ILN channels do) or a second angle, since there have to be goal cameras, at least. Not to be totally negative; I appreciate that they get the goals and game highlights up quickly on Twitter and the camera work is better than a lot of other hockey I've watched this season.

JasonN95

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarteSun livetweet says it was a crease violation https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/959598624169775104
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Watching it again it looks like Vanderlaan's leg comes into contact with the goalie in the crease. Not with any force but enough that the goalie didn't have free movement in the crease. That may be the difference between the waived off goal and the GWG. On the GWG the Cornell player in the crease did not in any way impede the goalie.

scoop85

Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarteSun livetweet says it was a crease violation https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/959598624169775104
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Watching it again it looks like Vanderlaan's leg comes into contact with the goalie in the crease. Not with any force but enough that the goalie didn't have free movement in the crease. That may be the difference between the waived off goal and the GWG. On the GWG the Cornell player in the crease did not in any way impede the goalie.

Yeah, after I saw the replay I had to assume the ruling was that Vanderlaan impeded the goalie's ability to move laterally towards his left.  No other explanation seems plausible.

upprdeck

how many goals we have lost to these replays and yet we have seen goalies completely blocked in past years and no call.

i wanted to see a replay of the union goal that went in high..it looked to just tuck under the bar and came down on the line then was cleared..  live it looked good but it was close to just being cross bar and down live too.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarteSun livetweet says it was a crease violation https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/959598624169775104
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Watching it again it looks like Vanderlaan's leg comes into contact with the goalie in the crease. Not with any force but enough that the goalie didn't have free movement in the crease. That may be the difference between the waived off goal and the GWG. On the GWG the Cornell player in the crease did not in any way impede the goalie.

Yeah, after I saw the replay I had to assume the ruling was that Vanderlaan impeded the goalie's ability to move laterally towards his left.  No other explanation seems plausible.

Or interfered with ability to cover the puck and not let it get to Locke. I believe it was the correct call, but it would be nice to see the overhead view.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

This game was another example of "enjoy this as it goes", for it could easily end at any time. With a modest few changes, we could be feeling what Clarkson is currently experiencing.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005