Harvard 2 @ Cornell 3, 11/11/17

[ugarte]

lol arthur mintz doesn't like the fish throwing? trotsky, the curmudgeon throne was never yours.

I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of spending all game terrified that we're gonna get a delay of game penalty. But I don't want to ditch the fish.

I'm in favor of ditching it. I think it has lost its usefulness and it's too likely to harm us with a penalty due to a dumb fan.

Despite the warning talk, has there ever actually been a penalty given for throwing stuff? I can't seem to recall it happening......

In a word, YES!!    I cannot recall the specific game(s)...  But, to my disgust, I've seen it happen.  And, yes, there was a delay of game penalty called against us.

If you throw it any time other than pre-game, it should be a penalty. But that's not about the tradition, that's about self-importance and foolishness.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

lol arthur mintz doesn't like the fish throwing? trotsky, the curmudgeon throne was never yours.

I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of spending all game terrified that we're gonna get a delay of game penalty. But I don't want to ditch the fish.

I'm in favor of ditching it. I think it has lost its usefulness and it's too likely to harm us with a penalty due to a dumb fan.

Despite the warning talk, has there ever actually been a penalty given for throwing stuff? I can't seem to recall it happening......

In a word, YES!!    I cannot recall the specific game(s)...  But, to my disgust, I've seen it happen.  And, yes, there was a delay of game penalty called against us.

If you throw it any time other than pre-game, it should be a penalty. But that's not about the tradition, that's about self-importance and foolishness.

In the late 70's & early 80's we actually did it when they came out for the 3rd period.  And yes, they often called a delay of game penalty.

In one game, after they called a delay of game penalty for the fish (and chicken - and a giant phallus with "Harvard Sucks" written on it), Tredway proceeded to finish a hat trick.  Hats came onto the ice...and the pissy refs called another delay of game penalty!

Fortunately we won the game 11-4.  Harvard really DID suck back then.

[LGR14]

lol arthur mintz doesn't like the fish throwing? trotsky, the curmudgeon throne was never yours.

I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of spending all game terrified that we're gonna get a delay of game penalty. But I don't want to ditch the fish.

I'm in favor of ditching it. I think it has lost its usefulness and it's too likely to harm us with a penalty due to a dumb fan.

Despite the warning talk, has there ever actually been a penalty given for throwing stuff? I can't seem to recall it happening. As well, what is the point of athletics making such a big deal about the so-called "zero tolerance" "no fish policy" every year when there is clearly a non-zero level of tolerance?

The 2011 game. Cornell had just tied it in the 3rd, some idiot threw a fish, delay of game. Harvard PP came up empty, but they scored a minute or two after to take the game.

[redice]

.....  Hats came onto the ice...and the pissy refs called another delay of game penalty!.....

Yes, I do believe that ref was Peter Dawes....   And, I don't recall him ever reffing another game at Lynah..  That was the most horseshit call I can ever remember in
my 50+ years of college hockey....   And, in that era, we weren't scoring many hat tricks...   So, that made it a bit more disgusting.

I suspect, the Lynah Faithful had been riding Peter over some bad calls & that was his payback time...  But, that is blind speculation..

[Trotsky]

That photo is going to be legendary.  What a shot!

[Dafatone]

I still can't believe the way that puck stuck to the blue line.

[Trotsky]

I still can't believe the way that puck stuck to the blue line.

The hands of fate.

[mikers]

Great start to the season.The Freshmen are outstanding and contributing; however, wondering about one of the most touted- Cairns? Is he hurt, not up to par yet or just not playing the way Schaffer wants?

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

That picture is now my new screen saver.

[Scersk '97]

From the Crimson, "Preview: Men's Hockey Prepares for Stingy Goaltending, Intense Atmospheres, and Flying Fish in First Road Weekend of Season":

"We're going to have to talk to the guys who are a little less experienced or freshmen and say, 'Hey listen, you have to keep your head within the glass,'" said [Ryan] Donato, a leader of his team's [sic] attacking ranks. "There's going to be a lot of times where you're laughing at the crowd... and you can't really let that distract you from your game."

Oh, how they love us, and how their love takes the form of a full-on, slathering, green-eyed monster.

[Beeeej]

From the Crimson, "Preview: Men's Hockey Prepares for Stingy Goaltending, Intense Atmospheres, and Flying Fish in First Road Weekend of Season":

"We're going to have to talk to the guys who are a little less experienced or freshmen and say, 'Hey listen, you have to keep your head within the glass,'" said [Ryan] Donato, a leader of his team's [sic] attacking ranks. "There's going to be a lot of times where you're laughing at the crowd... and you can't really let that distract you from your game."

Oh, how they love us, and how their love takes the form of a full-on, slathering, green-eyed monster.

Um... why "[sic]"?

[billhoward]

said [Ryan] Donato, a leader of his team's [sic] attacking ranks.

Heh. Subtle.

[Swampy]

From the Crimson, "Preview: Men's Hockey Prepares for Stingy Goaltending, Intense Atmospheres, and Flying Fish in First Road Weekend of Season":

"We're going to have to talk to the guys who are a little less experienced or freshmen and say, 'Hey listen, you have to keep your head within the glass,'" said [Ryan] Donato, a leader of his team's [sic] attacking ranks. "There's going to be a lot of times where you're laughing at the crowd... and you can't really let that distract you from your game."

Oh, how they love us, and how their love takes the form of a full-on, slathering, green-eyed monster.

The following is from the article:

In a tradition dating back to 1963, Big Red students assail the Crimson with fish when the team takes the ice before the national anthem.

Funny, Paul Kantner said, "If you remember the sixties, you weren't really there." So maybe that's it. But I really don't recall any fish-throwing at that time and always thought the custom began in the 1970s. I do know from TBRW, that we didn't start to kick Crimson butt until 1965 and prior to that during the sixties at most split with them or lost both RS games to them, sometimes badly. So I always thought any serious hockey rivalries developed in the late sixties, with BU being the most arch nemesis. Harvard was an enemy largely because its coaches dissed Ned's recruiting from Canada, and it was among the best in the Ivies. But Cornell went from bad to best during the decade, and I recall BU, BC, and Clarkson as more hated foes. Art Mintz seems to share this opinion: "Harvard was decent, but they were just another opponent". So, IIRC, the Harvard rivalry came later, and I don't remember any fish-throwing during my time on the hill, which I departed in 1969. Am I wrong about this?

[jkahn]

From the Crimson, "Preview: Men's Hockey Prepares for Stingy Goaltending, Intense Atmospheres, and Flying Fish in First Road Weekend of Season":

"We're going to have to talk to the guys who are a little less experienced or freshmen and say, 'Hey listen, you have to keep your head within the glass,'" said [Ryan] Donato, a leader of his team's [sic] attacking ranks. "There's going to be a lot of times where you're laughing at the crowd... and you can't really let that distract you from your game."

Oh, how they love us, and how their love takes the form of a full-on, slathering, green-eyed monster.

The following is from the article:

In a tradition dating back to 1963, Big Red students assail the Crimson with fish when the team takes the ice before the national anthem.

Funny, Paul Kantner said, "If you remember the sixties, you weren't really there." So maybe that's it. But I really don't recall any fish-throwing at that time and always thought the custom began in the 1970s. I do know from TBRW, that we didn't start to kick Crimson butt until 1965 and prior to that during the sixties at most split with them or lost both RS games to them, sometimes badly. So I always thought any serious hockey rivalries developed in the late sixties, with BU being the most arch nemesis. Harvard was an enemy largely because its coaches dissed Ned's recruiting from Canada, and it was among the best in the Ivies. But Cornell went from bad to best during the decade, and I recall BU, BC, and Clarkson as more hated foes. Art Mintz seems to share this opinion: "Harvard was decent, but they were just another opponent". So, IIRC, the Harvard rivalry came later, and I don't remember any fish-throwing during my time on the hill, which I departed in 1969. Am I wrong about this?

You are right, the fish started in the '70's, I believe as a reaction to the chicken incident at Harvard.  As far as the rivalry, Harvard started playing top-notch hockey in the '68-'69 season with Joe Cavanagh, and the entire Owen-Cavanagh-DeMichele line leading the way as sophs, and then added a second terrific line Corkery-Hynes-McManama two years later.

[Scersk '97]

From the Crimson, "Preview: Men's Hockey Prepares for Stingy Goaltending, Intense Atmospheres, and Flying Fish in First Road Weekend of Season":

"We're going to have to talk to the guys who are a little less experienced or freshmen and say, 'Hey listen, you have to keep your head within the glass,'" said [Ryan] Donato, a leader of his team's [sic] attacking ranks. "There's going to be a lot of times where you're laughing at the crowd... and you can't really let that distract you from your game."

Oh, how they love us, and how their love takes the form of a full-on, slathering, green-eyed monster.

Um... why "[sic]"?

The grammar is fine, so sic is perhaps not warranted.

But, for a Crimson writer, "his team's" in "leader of his team's attacking ranks" sounds ever so distant. As in, "Ah, yes, we do have a hockey team over there, old boy!"