Polls 2017-18

[Trotsky]

Hey, if it makes Matt feel comfortable then we play Lady of Fucking Spain at every stoppage.  If he's happy, we're happy.

I'm unfamiliar with that song. Can you direct us to its lyrics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A65QFlXHyBw

That video is about "Lady of Spain," with which I'm familiar. But that's not what you said. The song you named sounds more interesting.

But thanks anyway, as it's been a long time since I've watched Slap Shot. Excellent memory you have there.

I've always assumed his reaction indicates a scene that was cut.  Yes, he's been in enough rinks to hate the sound of the synthesized barrel organ, but even so, Reg seems to be recalling something very specific.

[Swampy]

Like everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.

One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?

[RichH]

Like everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.

One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?

IIRC, we started out really well, holding above 30% for the first few weeks. Then, when the PK hit a rough spot, the PP % started falling as well. The PK has recovered, but not the PP.  Really, the 5x5 play has buoyed the offense all season, which is a difference in past teams. The best teams in the Schafer era have always been strong on special teams. It's one of those things that makes me a bit nervous.

Edit: It's an even scarier picture when you only look at conference games. The PP% in ECAC games is only 11.7%, ranking #11 out of 12. Eek. But the ECAC PK% is 90%, the best in league play.

Not to mention this team hasn't scored more than 3 goals in a game in nearly a month, but they're still hanging in the Top-10 for GPG.

[Beeeej]

Like everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.

One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?

IIRC, we started out really well, holding above 30% for the first few weeks. Then, when the PK hit a rough spot, the PP % started falling as well. The PK has recovered, but not the PP.  Really, the 5x5 play has buoyed the offense all season, which is a difference in past teams. The best teams in the Schafer era have always been strong on special teams. It's one of those things that makes me a bit nervous.

Malott spent a decent amount of time on the PP before he got hurt, no? Could account for at least some of the difference.

[Dafatone]

Watching most of the games, I've really liked how our PP has looked. This is very subjective, but I think we're getting better chances than the results suggest. Unlike some of our recent years, where our PP has looked ugly.

[osorojo]

It seems this Cornell hockey team succeeds because of a team and teamwork rather than being borne upon the backs of a few superstars. This conflicts with current team sports wisdom, or at least current sports reporting, where superstars are the cause success and failure. This attitude is reflected in (or a partner to) the current opinion that the efforts of a few political superstars is responsible for the success or failure of government.

[Trotsky]

Watching most of the games, I've really liked how our PP has looked. This is very subjective, but I think we're getting better chances than the results suggest. Unlike some of our recent years, where our PP has looked ugly.

Me too.  We cycle low well, we take advantage of guys actually breaking to the net.

[Swampy]

Like everyone else on this forum, I'm thrilled that we're #1 but also skeptical about the ranking's accuracy.

One thing I'd really like to see is our powerplay being more effective. Currently we're ranked #41 at 16.7%, but with our offense being ranked #9 I don't see why we shouldn't be at least in the top 25, which would require at least 20%. Your thoughts?

IIRC, we started out really well, holding above 30% for the first few weeks. Then, when the PK hit a rough spot, the PP % started falling as well. The PK has recovered, but not the PP.  Really, the 5x5 play has buoyed the offense all season, which is a difference in past teams. The best teams in the Schafer era have always been strong on special teams. It's one of those things that makes me a bit nervous.

Malott spent a decent amount of time on the PP before he got hurt, no? Could account for at least some of the difference.

Didn't he just get hurt during the Colgate weekend?

[ugarte]

from the uscho stub recap. how can this be right?

[BearLover]

from the uscho stub recap. how can this be right?

My guess: in 2003 they were #1 in one poll and #2 in the other, and in the 60s and 70s they didn't have polls. No idea if either of those things are right. Actually, the most likely is that USCHO is incorrect.

[Trotsky]

They didn't get all the first place votes in 2003.  I guess they do not recognize the polls from the Archaic Age.

[Trotsky]

On 2/5 we drop to 3 in USCHO, holding 4 first place votes.  Clarkson drops all the way to 7.

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1. Notre Dame
 2. Denver
 3. [color=#b31313]Cornell[/color]
 4. St. Cloud

 5. Mankato
 6. Ohio State
 7. Clarkson
 8. North Dakota

 9. Providence
10. Duluth
11. Northeastern
12. Minnesota

13. UNO
14. Bowling Green
15. Western Michigan
16. Penn State


[jeff '84]

On 2/5 we drop to 3 in USCHO, holding 4 first place votes.  Clarkson drops all the way to 7.

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1. Notre Dame
 2. Denver
 3. [color=#b31313]Cornell[/color]
 4. St. Cloud

 5. Mankato
 6. Ohio State
 7. Clarkson
 8. North Dakota

 9. Providence
10. Duluth
11. Northeastern
12. Minnesota

13. UNO
14. Bowling Green
15. Western Michigan
16. Penn State


... and drop to #4 in USA Today (Clarkson drops to #7 in that poll as well.)
http://www.usahockey.com/college

[Jim Hyla]

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USCHO Division I Men's Poll - February 5, 2018
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1       Notre Dame (36) 21-5-2 982 2
2 Denver        (8) 16-6-6 927 4
[b][u]3 Cornell        (4) 19-3-1 896 1[/u][/b]
4 St. Cloud State (2) 17-6-3 867 6
5 Minnesota State 21-7-0 779 7
6 Ohio State 18-6-4 757 5
[b][u]7 Clarkson 19-6-3 735 3[/u][/b]
8 North Dakota 12-8-8 606 10
9 Providence 17-9-4 567 8
10 Minnesota Duluth 14-13-3 501 9
11 Northeastern 15-7-5 494 11
12 Minnesota 16-13-1 491 12
13 Omaha        14-13-1 366 13
14 Bowling Green 17-9-6 308 14
15 Western Michigan 14-13-1 303 15
16 Penn State 13-12-5 202 17
17 Wisconsin 14-13-4 194 18
18 Boston College 13-11-3 138 16
19 Michigan 13-13-2 128 20
20 Northern Michigan 18-11-3 127 19

Other Receiving Votes: Boston University 44, Maine 37,
UMass Lowell 21, [b][u]Harvard 13, Union 9[/u][/b], Bemidji State 4,
Mercyhurst 2, Canisius 1, [b][u]Quinnipiac 1[/u][/b]


Men's Poll
(2017-18 Season, Week #18 - Feb. 5)

Rank      Team                            Last Week    Record Weeks in Poll
1 University of Notre Dame,  498 (26) 2 21-5-2 18
2 University of Denver,      460 (6)  5 16-6-6 18
3 St. Cloud State University,433    4 17-6-3 18
[b][u]4 Cornell University,        432 (2)  1 19-3-1 12[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State University,356    7 21-7-0 17
6 Ohio State University,     347    6 18-6-4 9
[b][u]7 Clarkson University,       332    3 19-6-3 16[/u][/b]
8 University of North Dakota,258   11 12-8-8 18
9 University of Minnesota,   204   12 16-13-1 18
10 Providence College,        200    8 117-9-4 18
11 Northeastern University,   179    9 15-7-5 17
12 UniversityMinnesota Duluth 144   10 14-13-3 15
13 University Nebraska Omaha  97   13 14-13-1 4
14 Western Michigan University55    - 14-13-1 11
15 Bowling Green State Univer 41   14 17-9-6 3

Others Receiving Votes: Penn State University, 16;  University of Michigan, 9;
University of Wisconsin, 9; Boston College, 7; UMass Lowell, 3.

Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T   Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1t Notre Dame 58 21-5-2 .7857 2 .6080* 1
1t St. Cloud State 58 17-6-3 .7115 6 .6007 2
1t Denver        58 16-6-6 .6786 7 .5860 3
[b][u]4 Cornell        56 19-3-1 .8478 1 .5857* 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State 55 21-7-0 .7500 3 .5728* 5
6 Ohio State 54 18-6-4 .7143 5 .5699 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 53 19-6-3 .7321 4 .5665 7[/u][/b]
8 North Dakota 51 12-8-8 .5714 13 .5437* 9
9t Minnesota 50 16-13-1 .5500 19t .5459 8
9t Omaha        50 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5405 10
9t Minnesota Duluth50 14-13-3 .5167 27t .5386 11
12 Providence 48 17-9-4 .6333 9 .5380 12
13 Western Michigan47 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5380 13
14 Northeastern 46 15-7-5 .6481 8 .5317 14
15 Michigan 45 13-13-2 .5000 31t .5282 15
16 Penn State 44 13-12-5 .5167 27t .5281 16
17 Wisconsin 43 14-13-4 .5161 30 .5266 17
18 Bowling Green 42 17-9-6 .6250 10 .5248 18
19 North Michigan 41 18-11-3 .6094 11 .5246 19
20 Boston Univer 40 14-11-2 .5556 15t .5215 20
21 Boston College 39 13-11-3 .5370 22 .5206 21
22 Maine        38 15-10-4 .5862 12 .5177 22
[b][u]23 Harvard        37 10-8-4 .5455 21 .5174 23[/u][/b]
24 Colorado College36 11-11-4 .5000 31t .5144 24
[b][u]25t Union        34 16-13-1 .5500 19t .5118 25[/u][/b]
25t UMass Lowell 34 15-12-0 .5556 15t .5115 26
25t Miami        34 10-13-3 .4423 42 .5112 27

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - February 5, 2018
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

[b][u]1 Clarkson (7) 26-3-1 141 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin (5) 26-3-1 136 1
3 Boston College (3) 24-2-3 124 3
[b][u]4 Colgate        25-4-1 98 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 19-7-4 95 6
[b][u]6 Cornell        14-7-3 69 5[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 20-8-3 65 7
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 16-9-3 47 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 15-6-4 22 10
9 Maine        17-9-4 22 NR

Other Receiving Votes: Providence 3, Mercyhurst 2, Minnesota Duluth 1

Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
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Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 Wisconsin 34 26-3-1 .8833 1t .6433* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 33 26-3-1 .8833 1t .6396* 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 32 24-2-3 .8793 3 .6319 3
[b][u]4 Colgate        31 25-4-1 .8500 5 .6242* 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 30 19-7-4 .7000 6 .5850 5
6 Minnesota 29 20-8-3 .6935 8 .5648 7
[b][u]7 Cornell        28 14-7-3 .6458 11 .5606* 8
8 St. Lawrence 27 16-9-3 .6250 13 .5485 9[/u][/b]
9 Maine        26 17-9-4 .6333 12 .5395 10
10 Robert Morris 25 15-6-4 .6800 9 .5352 11
11 Northeastern 24 13-13-3 .5000 17t .5304 12
12 Providence 23 14-11-6 .5484 14 .5243 13
13 New Hampshire 22 13-11-7 .5323 16 .5232 14
14 Minnesota Duluth21 12-13-3 .4821 21 .5197 16
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac 20 15-13-2 .5333 15 .5151 17[/u][/b]



[Jim Hyla]

Here's the PWR, I'll put the polls up tomorrow.

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Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 St. Cloud State 59 19-6-3 .7321 4 .6064 1
2 Denver        58 16-6-6 .6786 7 .5859 3
3 Notre Dame 57 22-6-2 .7667 2t .6020* 2
[b][u]4 Cornell        56 20-3-2 .8400 1 .5841* 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota State 55 23-7-0 .7667 2t .5781* 5
6 Ohio State 54 19-7-4 .7000 6 .5714 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 53 19-6-5 .7167 5 .5621 7[/u][/b]
8 Providence 51 18-9-4 .6452 8 .5427 9
9t Minnesota 50 18-13-1 .5781 13t .5536 8
9t Omaha        50 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5410 10
9t Minnesota Duluth50 14-13-3 .5167 27t .5385 11
12 North Dakota 48 13-9-8 .5667 16t .5379* 12
13 Western Michigan47 14-13-1 .5179 25t .5375 13
14 Michigan 46 14-13-3 .5167 27t .5309 14
15 Northeastern 45 16-8-5 .6379 9 .5302 15
16 North Michigan 44 20-11-3 .6324 10 .5282 16
17 Penn State 43 13-12-5 .5167 27t .5280 17
18 Bowling Green 42 17-9-6 .6250 11 .5247 18
19 Boston Univer   41 15-11-3 .5690 15 .5243 19
20 Wisconsin 40 14-15-4 .4848 33 .5198 21
21 Boston College 39 14-12-3 .5345 21 .5202 20
[b][u]22t Union        37 18-13-1 .5781 13t .5180 22[/u][/b]
22t Colorado College37 12-12-4 .5000 30t .5169 23
24 Maine        36 15-11-4 .5667 16t .5146 24
25 UMass Lowell 35 16-14-0 .5333 22t .5083 25
[b][u]26t Harvard        34 10-10-4 .5000 30t .5067 26[/u][/b]
26t Miami        34 10-15-3 .4107 45 .5063 27

Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 Wisconsin 34 27-3-2 .8750 1 .6373* 1
2 Boston College 33 25-3-3 .8548 5 .6271 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 32 27-4-1 .8594 3t .6255* 3
4 Colgate        31 27-4-1 .8594 3t .6255* 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 30 20-8-4 .6875 8t .5767 6
[b][u]6 Cornell        29 17-7-3 .6852 10 .5666* 7[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 28 20-8-3 .6935 7 .5644 8
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 27 17-9-4 .6333 12 .5499 9[/u][/b]
9 Maine        26 17-9-5 .6290 13 .5390 10
10 Robert Morris 25 17-6-4 .7037 6 .5387 11
11 Northeastern 24 14-14-3 .5000 17t .5322 12
12 New Hampshire 23 14-11-7 .5469 14t .5318 13
13 Providence 22 14-11-7 .5469 14t .5258 14
14 Minnesota Duluth21 12-14-4 .4667 21 .5183 16
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac 20 15-14-3 .5156 16 .5140 18[/u][/b]