Cornell lacrosse 2018

Started by billhoward, August 07, 2017, 05:21:56 PM

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billhoward

Quote from: SwampyThis is a really interesting analysis, but it requires more thought. It emphasizes the standpoint of a defensive coordinator preparing to face quick-scoring vs slow-scoring teams. But here are a few thoughts I'd add to the mix.
  • Whether a team tries to score quickly or not depends on the game situation. If an elite team plays several cupcakes, then it's likely to open up substantial leads, which will then lead to running time off the clock before attempting a shot and (because of the opponent's weakness) often scoring. In other words, there's a correlation between a team's schedule and the distribution of scoring efficiency by time of possession. It would therefore be helpful to break down these scoring efficiency ratings by "even strength," "close," "ahead," "behind," etc., as is done in advanced hockey metrics.
  • A team that's able to score largely by taking over a minute to set up a high-percentage shot has a severe liability. It will be ineffective in most EMO situations, which are a minute or less, and it will be severely handicapped when it finds itself behind in a game against a comparable team.
  • It follows that a good offensive coordinator needs to train for both approaches to offense. A championship team needs to train to score quickly, to take longer but set up high-percentage shots, and to run off clock without sacrificing good scoring chances.
Good point. Dominant football teams often gains lots of yards rushing. Because they're ahead and want to wind down the clock. Doesn't mean rushing is the best way to score points.

In the case of dominant Cornell lacrosse (didn't want to cause confusion with Cornell football), Cornell has the sense it's on the way to victory so it takes a 2-minute possession and works for a good shot.

Al DeFlorio

Interesting factoid from Inside Lacrosse's preview of Saturday's game:

"Jeff Teat and Michael Sowers are currently first and second in the nation, scoring 6.69 and 6.58 points per game. If the season were to end while you're reading this article for some reason, Teat's average would be the second highest in D1 since 1992, only Lyle Thompson's 7.11 in 2014 checking in above the sophomore from Ontario."
Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

Imagine if we hadnt had huge leads in the 3rd about 4 times.. have to think he scores 4-5 more pts. 6 more would do it.  

8.5 over the next 4 games would get him on top of that total by thompson.. pretty tall order.

mike1960

Princeton is playing a great defensive game. Their goalie is also making terrific saves. In my opinion, this is a good experience for Cornell. This is the kind of game they'll have to play and win from here on out. We'll see if the coaches can make some adjustments at the half to get more balls in the net.

mike1960

I love this team, and I know their place in the tournament was secured, but I'm very disappointed in how they came out in the second half. Teat in particular did not rise to the challenge of that freshman defender. He should have made it his personal mission to embarrass him, but instead made ill-advised passes in front of the goal and became frustrated. That defensiveman scored more goals that Teat did. Princeton has given future teams the road map to defeat our offense: blanket and frustrate Teat because a lot of the offense goes through him. I hope Cornell uses this game as an opportunity to work on making teams pay the price if they use this defensive strategy in the future.

billhoward

Friday, May 4, Columbia's Robert K. Kraft Field at Lawrence A. Wein Stadium (i.e. the very northern tip of Manhattan, there is both parking and subway)
6 pm, #1 Yale vs. #4 Penn (Yale won 12-6 at home March 31)
8:30 p.m., #2 Cornell vs. #3 Brown (Cornell won 19-5 at home April 21)

Championship Sunday 12 noon. No consolation game.

Winner gets NCAA autobid. Cornell w/o winning the title is on the bubble. No other Ivy team [edit add: than Yale, again #1 in the polls] is likely to qualify as an at-large.

Details: http://www.gocolumbialions.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9600&ATCLID=211695249

mountainred

Quote from: billhowardNo other Ivy team is likely to qualify as an at-large.

You mean other than Yale, right?  The doggies have to be safely in.

A win over Brown and a loss to Yale will make for a very nervous Sunday night.

billhoward

Cornell's loss to Princeton drops Cornell from 6th to 9th in the weekly media poll. Yale remains #1. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

USILA has Cornell 10th down from 8th  http://www.usila.org/news/2018/4/23/mens-lacrosse-di-top-20-4-23-18.aspx

Quint Kessenich drops Cornell to #11 in his personal rankings in http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/quint-s-top-20-survive-and-advance/52100
Quote from: KessenichAn inexplicable loss to Princeton on Saturday puts their NCAA bid in jeopardy. In my eyes, the Big Red are on the bubble and have work to do. Who is Princeton defender George Baughan? And how did he neutralize Cornell's Jeff Teat?

Their resume includes four losses: Colgate, Albany, Yale and Princeton. Wins are over Penn State, Penn, Syracuse and Lehigh. RPI of 16 is not good. The Big Red face Brown in the Ivy League semifinals on Friday night on ESPNU.

Swampy

Quote from: billhowardCornell's loss to Princeton drops Cornell from 6th to 9th in the weekly media poll. Yale remains #1. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

Quint Kessenich drops Cornell to #11 in his personal rankings in http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/quint-s-top-20-survive-and-advance/52100
Quote from: KessenichAn inexplicable loss to Princeton on Saturday puts their NCAA bid in jeopardy. In my eyes, the Big Red are on the bubble and have work to do. Who is Princeton defender George Baughan? And how did he neutralize Cornell's Jeff Teat?

Their resume includes four losses: Colgate, Albany, Yale and Princeton. Wins are over Penn State, Penn, Syracuse and Lehigh. RPI of 16 is not good. The Big Red face Brown in the Ivy League semifinals on Friday night on ESPNU.

I think the Colgate loss was due to a combination of Ivy League rules making us start late and lack of a real indoor practice facility. Depending on how things turn out, this may be a good argument for scheduling a real cupcake for the first game. Colgate is not going to win the NC, but neither is it in the same shape as USAFA or Bingo.

billhoward

How big, how fancy should this practice field be? Should we jump the other Ivies and build one with with seating for 2500 and the inflated fabric roof high enough for soccer kicks, or a lacrosse up-in-the-air heave to run out the last 3 seconds against Syracuse? Have inflatable dome fields ever won an architectural award?

Trotsky

Quote from: billhowardHow big, how fancy should this practice field be? Should we jump the other Ivies and build one with with seating for 2500 and the inflated fabric roof high enough for soccer kicks, or a lacrosse up-in-the-air heave to run out the last 3 seconds against Syracuse? Have inflatable dome fields ever won an architectural award?
I'll bet there is nothing in the rules barring a zero gravity field.

Trotsky

Quote from: billhowardHave inflatable dome fields ever won an architectural award?

Close.

mike1960

Quote from: billhowardHow big, how fancy should this practice field be? Should we jump the other Ivies and build one with with seating for 2500 and the inflated fabric roof high enough for soccer kicks, or a lacrosse up-in-the-air heave to run out the last 3 seconds against Syracuse? Have inflatable dome fields ever won an architectural award?

Back in the days of yore, we used to play box lacrosse on the field in Bartels. I assume it's still there.

marty

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardHow big, how fancy should this practice field be? Should we jump the other Ivies and build one with with seating for 2500 and the inflated fabric roof high enough for soccer kicks, or a lacrosse up-in-the-air heave to run out the last 3 seconds against Syracuse? Have inflatable dome fields ever won an architectural award?
I'll bet there is nothing in the rules barring a zero gravity field.

To hell with a dome.  Let's build one in a salt mine.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Swampy

Quote from: billhowardHow big, how fancy should this practice field be? Should we jump the other Ivies and build one with with seating for 2500 and the inflated fabric roof high enough for soccer kicks, or a lacrosse up-in-the-air heave to run out the last 3 seconds against Syracuse? Have inflatable dome fields ever won an architectural award?

Start by looking at the ones mentioned here.