NCAA tourney

[jeff '84]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

[Trotsky]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

[jtwcornell91]

Union has a chance at allowing 10 goals. That certainly hasn't happened during the NCAA's in a long, long time.

It ended 10-3. The announcers said the last time a team scored ten goals in an NCAA tourney game before today was in 1990.

I saw the score and figured everyone got confused by those ridiculous football helmets Penn State plays hockey in.

[billhoward]

Union has a chance at allowing 10 goals. That certainly hasn't happened during the NCAA's in a long, long time.

It ended 10-3. The announcers said the last time a team scored ten goals in an NCAA tourney game before today was in 1990.

I saw the score and figured everyone got confused by those ridiculous football helmets Penn State plays hockey in.

Right: a TD plus a FG for each side. They could national titles next couple years in wrestling, ice hockey, and lacrosse.

[ugarte]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

NAY

[Dafatone]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

NAY

I gotta say nay here.  There are some teams I'd root for them over (nodak, Dartmouth, Q), but generally nay.

[Beeeej]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

NAY

I gotta say nay here.  There are some teams I'd root for them over (nodak, Dartmouth, Q), but generally nay.

I'm also a nay. Let Harvard get to the finals, but I badly want us to have our next national title before they get another. I'd even have been okay with another Union title this year, but not Harvard, no matter how deserving.

[billhoward]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

NAY

I gotta say nay here.  There are some teams I'd root for them over (nodak, Dartmouth, Q), but generally nay.

I'm also a nay. Let Harvard get to the finals, but I badly want us to have our next national title before they get another. I'd even have been okay with another Union title this year, but not Harvard, no matter how deserving.

Rising tide lifts all boats. In the Ivy League, a rising tide lifts all yachts. If an Ivy or ECAC team wins the title, recruits for the other teams in the league see increased competition within the league, which is what they want. Before Yale, Union and Q made it to the finals in the past five years with 2 titles, we were the EZAC.

[Beeeej]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

NAY

I gotta say nay here.  There are some teams I'd root for them over (nodak, Dartmouth, Q), but generally nay.

I'm also a nay. Let Harvard get to the finals, but I badly want us to have our next national title before they get another. I'd even have been okay with another Union title this year, but not Harvard, no matter how deserving.

Rising tide lifts all boats. In the Ivy League, a rising tide lifts all yachts. If an Ivy or ECAC team wins the title, recruits for the other teams in the league see increased competition within the league, which is what they want. Before Yale, Union and Q made it to the finals in the past five years with 2 titles, we were the EZAC.

I am less and less convinced by this argument as the time goes by and Cornell's recruiting doesn't significantly improve. But if Q getting to the finals helped, great, let Harvard get to the finals and stop there.

[underskill]

that argument only works if you think Cornell is underfunding the hockey team, which seems dubious.  Harvard has generally had more individual talent over the years, but never seemed to get their s--- together.

[Beeeej]

that argument only works if you think Cornell is underfunding the hockey team, which seems dubious.  Harvard has generally had more individual talent over the years, but never seemed to get their s--- together.

What on earth does funding have to do with it? The argument works if you think Cornell hasn't reaped the benefits - or been able to reap the benefits - of the theoretical boat elevation that's been cited, regardless of the reasons they haven't. Despite what we may feel in our hearts, there is still a difference between Cornell's caché and that of Harvard or Yale, and that alone could make the difference in whether recent success by other teams actually fosters improvement in our recruiting.

[Tcl123]

We need to have someone set up a poll on this site asking who they want to win the tourney based on who's left. Be interesting to see if people prefer the hardware to be in or out of our conference.

[Trotsky]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

NAY

I gotta say nay here.  There are some teams I'd root for them over (nodak, Dartmouth, Q), but generally nay.

I'm also a nay. Let Harvard get to the finals, but I badly want us to have our next national title before they get another. I'd even have been okay with another Union title this year, but not Harvard, no matter how deserving.

Rising tide lifts all boats. In the Ivy League, a rising tide lifts all yachts. If an Ivy or ECAC team wins the title, recruits for the other teams in the league see increased competition within the league, which is what they want. Before Yale, Union and Q made it to the finals in the past five years with 2 titles, we were the EZAC.

I am less and less convinced by this argument as the time goes by and Cornell's recruiting doesn't significantly improve. But if Q getting to the finals helped, great, let Harvard get to the finals and stop there.

How would we measure that?  # of NHL picks seems pretty fair.  We're losing one (Buckles), retaining four (Starrett, Angello, Fiegl, Tshantz) have two already picked coming in (Song, Cairns) and maybe one to be picked in June (Green). That's 6 or 7 picks on next year's team, which IINM rivals Schafer's best rosters.

[Jim Hyla]

Luckily for us (read: Harvard losing), Denver looks unbeatable

I'm in favor of any Ivy school (any) winning the tournament.

DItto

Motion passes by acclamation.

NAY

I gotta say nay here.  There are some teams I'd root for them over (nodak, Dartmouth, Q), but generally nay.

I'm also a nay. Let Harvard get to the finals, but I badly want us to have our next national title before they get another. I'd even have been okay with another Union title this year, but not Harvard, no matter how deserving.

Rising tide lifts all boats. In the Ivy League, a rising tide lifts all yachts. If an Ivy or ECAC team wins the title, recruits for the other teams in the league see increased competition within the league, which is what they want. Before Yale, Union and Q made it to the finals in the past five years with 2 titles, we were the EZAC.

I am less and less convinced by this argument as the time goes by and Cornell's recruiting doesn't significantly improve. But if Q getting to the finals helped, great, let Harvard get to the finals and stop there.

Personally I like it a lot more when I can see, and often cheer for 3, maybe 4, ECAC teams in the NCAAs.

I don't know why so many are so strongly anti-Harvard, but I'm rooting for them to win it all.

[underskill]

that argument only works if you think Cornell is underfunding the hockey team, which seems dubious.  Harvard has generally had more individual talent over the years, but never seemed to get their s--- together.

What on earth does funding have to do with it? The argument works if you think Cornell hasn't reaped the benefits - or been able to reap the benefits - of the theoretical boat elevation that's been cited, regardless of the reasons they haven't. Despite what we may feel in our hearts, there is still a difference between Cornell's caché and that of Harvard or Yale, and that alone could make the difference in whether recent success by other teams actually fosters improvement in our recruiting.

meaning if you argue that a stronger conference is good for Cornell, the only way that works is if the school tries to actually elevate its program, either through recruiting, facilities, etc.  Otherwise, if we're just a  middling program that maybe makes the tourney once every 3-5 years, I don't see how the stronger conference has done much for the program, esp. compared to where it was in the 2000's.