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[upprdeck]

i think CU needs to have some business classes in Lynah and siphon some money for the a hockey arena..

[Jim Hyla]

i think CU needs to have some business classes in Lynah and siphon some money for the a hockey arena..

And what would a new arena do? We had almost full arenas both nights. The crowd was into it and if we only had one win it might have carried over for the season.

And I was going to post this in reply to Phil Abramowitz on the Alumni thread, but if you'd heard Ken Dryden talk about coming into Lynah and what it meant to have a few thousand traveling fans, especially at the Boston Garden, then you'd understand that a new palatial arena would not be the answer. He was one of the 100 Best NHLer's and chose to come back to CU to be honored with his teammates, instead of being in LA to be honored with some of his NHL teammates.

No, we have to play like we did for a few periods this weekend and win.

If anything was proven this weekend, it was that the fans are still there for exciting, winning hockey. Now we just need to provide that.

p.s. I heard some of Ken Dryden's interview with Jason in between periods last night. I assume it was on the ILDN broadcast as well and would be on the archived version, as well. It was very similar to what he said at the 1967 reunion.

You should try and listen to it. Sure he's a good politician and tailored his talk to his audience, the fans, but from talking to former players, I'd have to believe that they all agree with what was said.

[upprdeck]

Fans willing to sit in a bad arena doesnt mean they dont want a better one.  I know  many people who go and complain and many more who dont go and complain.

I am there every weekend, but i still wouldnt miss not getting kicked every time someone moves or not having a cup holder and a seat , having some real concession stands, a speaker system, a real scoreboard, replays etc.

And dont think it doesnt turn some recruits off when they go see other arenas

When the places is rocking its great, but its only still 60-70% full these days on most nights.

I also dont think a new arena does much for attendance, I would redo it, lower the seating by a few hundred and reward the fans that are stilling sitting in 1950s design.

[Hooking]

In the late-50's early 60's the crowds grew rapidly, even back when Paul Patton was coach. Then the team's success was growing. I think the current spectator drought is a result of team performance, not seating arrangements.

[Hooking]

In the seven years from 1967 to 1973 the C.U. men's hockey team went to six frozen fours. In the following 42 years Cornell went to two frozen fours. It is remarkable the fan base has survived as well as it has.

[Al DeFlorio]

In the seven years from 1967 to 1973 the C.U. men's hockey team went to six frozen fours. In the following 42 years Cornell went to two frozen fours. It is remarkable the fan base has survived as well as it has.

So, I guess only teams that go to six frozen fours in seven years are able to retain their fan base.  Can't be many good fan bases around if that's the case.

Look, get a grip.  In today's much-expanded college hockey world (twice the number of division I teams and the frozen four played in NHL rinks not the 1932 rink in Lake Placid), no one is ever going to repeat what Ned did at Cornell and Bertrand was able to trade on for two or three years.  So let's stop wailing over the fact that the late 1960s are not ever coming back.  To Ithaca or anywhere.  If you're unable to deal with that, become a wrestling fan.

[Hooking]

While we are at it let's stop blaming game starting times, ticket lines, ticket prices, traveling, bad bounces, officiating, seating arrangements, exams, bad ice, and league expansion for the shortcomings of C.U. hockey teams and the demise of C.U. hockey attendance. BTW: The same teams that Cornell plays today and the teams that go to the frozen four today are pretty much the same teams that Cornell played against and went to the frozen four 50 years ago. They haven't changed much. Cornell has.

[Trotsky]

Just.  Win.

[Jim Hyla]

While we are at it let's stop blaming game starting times, ticket lines, ticket prices, traveling, bad bounces, officiating, seating arrangements, exams, bad ice, and league expansion for the shortcomings of C.U. hockey teams and the demise of C.U. hockey attendance. BTW: The same teams that Cornell plays today and the teams that go to the frozen four today are pretty much the same teams that Cornell played against and went to the frozen four 50 years ago. They haven't changed much. Cornell has.

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So just how is it that they haven't changed much, but Cornell has.

[Dafatone]

While we are at it let's stop blaming game starting times, ticket lines, ticket prices, traveling, bad bounces, officiating, seating arrangements, exams, bad ice, and league expansion for the shortcomings of C.U. hockey teams and the demise of C.U. hockey attendance. BTW: The same teams that Cornell plays today and the teams that go to the frozen four today are pretty much the same teams that Cornell played against and went to the frozen four 50 years ago. They haven't changed much. Cornell has.

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So just how is it that they haven't changed much, but Cornell has.

You know that Penn state.  Dominating hockey in the 60s.

[marty]

In the seven years from 1967 to 1973 the C.U. men's hockey team went to six frozen fours. In the following 42 years Cornell went to two frozen fours. It is remarkable the fan base has survived as well as it has.

So, I guess only teams that go to six frozen fours in seven years are able to retain their fan base.  Can't be many good fan bases around if that's the case.

Look, get a grip.  In today's much-expanded college hockey world (twice the number of division I teams and the frozen four played in NHL rinks not the 1932 rink in Lake Placid), no one is ever going to repeat what Ned did at Cornell and Bertrand was able to trade on for two or three years.  So let's stop wailing over the fact that the late 1960s are not ever coming back.  To Ithaca or anywhere.  If you're unable to deal with that, become a wrestling fan.

Or you could join Sherman and Peabody in the "Wayback Machine". That's a plan.

[Tcl123]

In the seven years from 1967 to 1973 the C.U. men's hockey team went to six frozen fours. In the following 42 years Cornell went to two frozen fours. It is remarkable the fan base has survived as well as it has.

So, I guess only teams that go to six frozen fours in seven years are able to retain their fan base.  Can't be many good fan bases around if that's the case.

Look, get a grip.  In today's much-expanded college hockey world (twice the number of division I teams and the frozen four played in NHL rinks not the 1932 rink in Lake Placid), no one is ever going to repeat what Ned did at Cornell and Bertrand was able to trade on for two or three years.  So let's stop wailing over the fact that the late 1960s are not ever coming back.  To Ithaca or anywhere.  If you're unable to deal with that, become a wrestling fan.

Or you could join Sherman and Peabody in the "Wayback Machine". That's a plan.

Jesus Christ. Everyone needs to stop bitching. I'm a fan. I watch and hope that "we" do well. We are fighting an uphill battle in regards to money, arena, admissions, history (good and bad), dwindling fan support, etc.  In order for us to truly reach the pinnacle in college hockey (final four or better for an ivy), we need to "catch lightning in a bottle". We need luck and a couple great recruiting class(es). We all need to start being honest with ourselves. If we can see a final four or two (maybe even 3 with a championship sprinkled in as a best case scenario), consider yourself lucky, if not blessed. We will never be ND, BU,BC or Minnesota, nor do I want to be.

And for the millenials out there, you wanna pack lynah every night? Designate it a safe space. Problem solved.

[Trotsky]

And for the millenials out there, you wanna pack lynah every night? Designate it a safe space. Problem solved.

For fuck's sake, I'm 2 generations distant from the Millennials and even I'm tired of that joke.

Also, the crowd was excellent for Harvard and not bad at all for Dartmouth, and in fact the rush for the exits Saturday night was on the townie side.  I'm a Grumpy Old Man when it comes to the little darlings pleasuring themselves with their phone dildos during play, but other than that they're just like our crowds were in the 80s: 95% of them including sainted Section A react to action and events, and if the team shits the bed it kills the crowd.  The lackluster third periods for the crowds this past weekend were not generational, they were a reaction to gameplay.  The Kids are Alright.

[Tcl123]

And for the millenials out there, you wanna pack lynah every night? Designate it a safe space. Problem solved.

For fuck's sake, I'm 2 generations distant from the Millennials and even I'm tired of that joke.

Also, the crowd was excellent for Harvard and not bad at all for Dartmouth, and in fact the rush for the exits Saturday night was on the townie side.  I'm a Grumpy Old Man when it comes to the little darlings pleasuring themselves with their phone dildos during play, but other than that they're just like our crowds were in the 80s: 95% of them including sainted Section A react to action and events, and if the team shits the bed it kills the crowd.  The lackluster third periods for the crowds this past weekend were not generational, they were a reaction to gameplay.  The Kids are Alright.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I've been to sporting events over the past 30 years (over several sports), and they have all changed for the worse. Every. Single. One.

[andyw2100]

The Kids are Alright.

I'll accept that, provided you exclude the complete fucking morons (sorry--softer language doesn't apply here) who kept throwing fish in what could only be an attempt to be able to tell their friends, "I threw the fish that got Cornell the delay of game penalty."

I love the fish at the Harvard game. I love the tradition. I don't want to see a fish-less Lynah. But in our day (Trotsky and I are both mid-80s grads) there was far more fish, but 99% of it was thrown before the game started, with perhaps 1% thrown after the game ended. I honestly don't remember any fish whatsoever being thrown at any other time.

I was shocked we didn't get a delay of game penalty called against us on Friday night. Shocked! We have certainly been penalized for less in the past.

I really don't know what was going through these people's minds.