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Started by upprdeck, January 28, 2017, 03:45:39 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: andyw2100I really don't know what was going through these people's minds.
Me neither.

In the age of ubiquitous social media, ignorance is no excuse.  The offending fish came from A and D who should both know better.  We were actively encouraging the ushers to find the students and kick them out.

The fish tradition is great, but the late throwers aren't contributing to it, they're just selfish jerks.

andyw2100

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: andyw2100I really don't know what was going through these people's minds.
Me neither.

In the age of ubiquitous social media, ignorance is no excuse.  The offending fish came from A and D who should both know better.  We were actively encouraging the ushers to find the students and kick them out.

The fish tradition is great, but the late throwers aren't contributing to it, they're just selfish jerks.

When the morons in A were throwing the late fish at the one guy out there to clean them up, some people in D started chanting "One more fish." We sit on the aisle with D, and my daughter who graduated in 2016, and is normally quite reserved stood up and started screaming at them. Later, when D was throwing the fish, we both were screaming at the entire Section, since we couldn't see where the fish were coming from. Most of the people in D that we could see were looking at us like we were nuts, and perhaps we were a little. The parts of D that we could see was more full of Facetimers than I recall, even for the Harvard game. Most of them then sat through the Alma Mater.

redice

Quote from: andyw2100I really don't know what was going through these people's minds.

I can answer that:   NOTHING!!!
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Jim Hyla

Quote from: redice
Quote from: andyw2100I really don't know what was going through these people's minds.

I can answer that:   NOTHING!!!

Disagree, self-congratulation.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

upprdeck

I dont get why the school doesnt just deal with it.. put 2 people with cameras up in section O and K and watch the sections across from it. when it happens rewind the picture zoom it in and get who threw it.

the same question could be asked why they had shovels ready to remove snow at the 10 min break but only 1 for the fish before the game?  they know its gonna happen have more people ready to deal with it.

Hooking

lucky bounces, fish, exams,travel, injury, hostile referees, bad ice, small crowds, late starting time, ugly uniforms, warm rinks, cheap sticks, hot pucks, illness, bad goals, hot goalies, noise distractions, prejudiced timekeepers, low barometric pressure - did I miss any?

Trotsky

Quote from: upprdeckthe same question could be asked why they had shovels ready to remove snow at the 10 min break but only 1 for the fish before the game?  they know its gonna happen have more people ready to deal with it.
I must admit I didn't notice that, and I was really impressed by how quickly the rink dude got the late fish up.  I came closer than I ever have to losing my shit as the players were circling to start the second and the two huge fish came out of A when the rink rat came streaking out of nowhere, grabbed the two fish, and turned to dart back before the officials got pissed... and ANOTHER fish came out and landed at his feet.

I think if I had seen the guy (yes, I am willing to make that guess) who threw the third fish I'd have made a citizen's arrest. The fuck, people?  Are you there to support the team or smell your own farts?

Beeeej

Quote from: andyw2100I love the fish at the Harvard game. I love the tradition. I don't want to see a fish-less Lynah. But in our day (Trotsky and I are both mid-80s grads) there was far more fish, but 99% of it was thrown before the game started, with perhaps 1% thrown after the game ended. I honestly don't remember any fish whatsoever being thrown at any other time.

My recollection - admittedly as suspect as anybody's - is that when I arrived in the late 1980s and for several years afterward, the tradition was to throw fish at Harvard when Cornell scored its first goal of the night. And just like the "stand until Cornell scores its first goal of the night" tradition morphed into "stand the whole game" when Cornell had a couple of bad seasons (1993, 1994) with a decent number of shutouts and 1-goal games, so did the fish-throwing morph into "throw when they arrive on the ice."

Am I crazy? (About this, I mean.)

My other recollection, and one of which I'm much more certain, is that over the course of about 30 years watching Cornell hockey, I've attended at least 25 Harvard games at Lynah (including some playoffs), and the problem of students (or whoever) throwing fish on the ice after they're "supposed" to, and after warnings have been issued, is a perennial one, not remotely new, and probably something I've seen at 15 out of those 25 contests. I even remember traveling to Harvard in the 1990s and wondering if we could get the refs to call a Delay of Game penalty on Harvard by sneaking into Harvard student sections and throwing fish a couple of times at the proper intervals.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

upprdeck

I dont recall which game it was but cornell got one delay of game penalty not too long ago when a visitor in section O threw something on the ice after a warning

slh10

Just the fact that you are BORING!!! If you don't like the product on the ice go down the hall and watch basketball. Your pointless drivel is redundant. We get it, you don't like Schafer or his style of hockey. Move on!!! Sorry to everyone else for feeding the trolls!!!::smashfreak::

Trotsky

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: andyw2100I love the fish at the Harvard game. I love the tradition. I don't want to see a fish-less Lynah. But in our day (Trotsky and I are both mid-80s grads) there was far more fish, but 99% of it was thrown before the game started, with perhaps 1% thrown after the game ended. I honestly don't remember any fish whatsoever being thrown at any other time.

My recollection - admittedly as suspect as anybody's - is that when I arrived in the late 1980s and for several years afterward, the tradition was to throw fish at Harvard when Cornell scored its first goal of the night. And just like the "stand until Cornell scores its first goal of the night" tradition morphed into "stand the whole game" when Cornell had a couple of bad seasons (1993, 1994) with a decent number of shutouts and 1-goal games, so did the fish-throwing morph into "throw when they arrive on the ice."

Am I crazy? (About this, I mean.)

My other recollection, and one of which I'm much more certain, is that over the course of about 30 years watching Cornell hockey, I've attended at least 25 Harvard games at Lynah (including some playoffs), and the problem of students (or whoever) throwing fish on the ice after they're "supposed" to, and after warnings have been issued, is a perennial one, not remotely new, and probably something I've seen at 15 out of those 25 contests. I even remember traveling to Harvard in the 1990s and wondering if we could get the refs to call a Delay of Game penalty on Harvard by sneaking into Harvard student sections and throwing fish a couple of times at the proper intervals.

You aren't crazy.  Initially when I was a student it was fish after our first goal, and some frat tied a chicken in the net between periods 1 and 2.  Then one year the chicken didn't move.  Awkward.  And I'm pretty sure that was it for "fowl."

Fish at the beginning of the game may have been a truce brokered between the administration and fans.  The zeal with which the administration has policed the students has waxed and waned over the years and, as hard as this is to type, I think it may be too lax now.  As far as I'm concerned, if you throw fish on the ice prior to the introductions you're fine.  At any other time, fuck you, I'll throw you out myself if I catch you.

The other thing is I wish people would just stick to big fish.  Not only are they MUCH more fun, and a challenge, but the little fish and the Swedish fish are hard to see and a risk.  All we fucking need is for a player or a referee to sustain an injury after hitting a rogue anchovy and that will be it for the tradition forever.

I know posting here is preaching to people who know, but if any students lurk here, please (1) POST!!!  We need you!  We are fucking old, and (2) please pass the word and make it part of the student knowledge that there are rules for Fish N Fowl, and they matter.

redice

Quote from: upprdeckI dont get why the school doesnt just deal with it..

As someone who used to be an usher at Lynah and has observed Cornell's efforts close-up, I can answer your question:  They don't truly want to stop it!!!   They make plenty of noise discouraging it, but do nothing that actually looks like stopping it...   Face it, it will go on as long as there are students who wish it to do so.   If there are students stupid enough to throw the fish at times which will bring penalties against CU, that is what will happen!!   While the administration CAN stop it, they will not!!
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness