St. Lawrence 2 vs. Cornell 3 1/21/17

[Trotsky]

The traditions are kept alive by older fans handing them down to younger fans, like any folk culture.  Just like the band hands down its repertoire, the fans hand down the cheers.

We're seeing generation loss.  The accumulation of "bad data" (less enthusiasm overall, not getting there early, not cheering throughout the game but only in response to cheers) has made the student fan section deteriorate to where it is now.

A lot of this is the result of the slow, cautious, boring style of play we saw even when the team was excellent in 2010 and 2012.  Combined with losing, and at Lynah at that!, this took the Secret Sauce out of the crowd.

But ti's reparable, because it's happened before.  During that execrable stretch 93-95 attendance and enthusiam were in the toilet and people made the same observations about Kids Today -- it was just they were talking on their phones rather than tweeting or gaming or masturbating or whatever they do now.

tl; dr: Lose less; score more.

[upprdeck]

Still lynah is far better experience than almost every other rink we play in..

[ACM]

St. Lawrence appeared to have stricken first just 1:41 into the game, but a goalie interference call erased the goal and kept the game scoreless.

Not sure what dialect of English this sentence is written in, but the referee told me the goal was disallowed because it was directed in with a "distinct kicking motion", and that's what I announced.

[CAS]

Agree w/Upperdeck - today's Lynah is still a much better environment than found at other rinks.

[RichH]

Agree w/Upperdeck - today's Lynah is still a much better environment than found at other rinks.

But it could be so much better, very easily: show up on time.  I don't care if the chants/cheers are stale or lame, or if they only react to goals or stare at their devices for a majority of the time. How hard is it to get to the rink for the opening faceoff?  Maybe they treat it like a movie where the feature starts at 7:25 for a 7:00 movie due to the loads of ads and trailers. Do classes and lectures start late now?

I can't communicate to them how fun it was to have a full student section a full half-hour before the anthems. There were plenty of opportunities to socialize and even get individual taunts going during the opening warm-up period. And I get that schedules & priorities have changed, and you can't force people to buy tickets when factors like cost and other entertainment options exist. But if you're going to the game, GET. TO. THE. GAME.

This is the most disappointing change that has happened, and it makes a world of difference in the energy of the building.

[nshapiro]

Agree w/Upperdeck - today's Lynah is still a much better environment than found at other rinks.

But it could be so much better, very easily: show up on time.  I don't care if the chants/cheers are stale or lame, or if they only react to goals or stare at their devices for a majority of the time. How hard is it to get to the rink for the opening faceoff?  Maybe they treat it like a movie where the feature starts at 7:25 for a 7:00 movie due to the loads of ads and trailers. Do classes and lectures start late now?

I can't communicate to them how fun it was to have a full student section a full half-hour before the anthems. There were plenty of opportunities to socialize and even get individual taunts going during the opening warm-up period. And I get that schedules & priorities have changed, and you can't force people to buy tickets when factors like cost and other entertainment options exist. But if you're going to the game, GET. TO. THE. GAME.

This is the most disappointing change that has happened, and it makes a world of difference in the energy of the building.

Current students can't get to the game on time.  There are too many demands on their plate.  What with binge watching everything on Netflix, texting with their high school friends all over the country, and texting with their college roommate 6 feet away from them.  They don't even bother to attend classes, since many lectures are recorded and they can be watched without leaving their rooms. School spirit is dead (or at least dying), and this will not be changed no matter how good the team gets.

[upprdeck]

so many townies are late as well.. and its no different at other arenas as sports.. go to the dome and see people come in 20-30 min late too.

[Dafatone]

Agree w/Upperdeck - today's Lynah is still a much better environment than found at other rinks.

But it could be so much better, very easily: show up on time.  I don't care if the chants/cheers are stale or lame, or if they only react to goals or stare at their devices for a majority of the time. How hard is it to get to the rink for the opening faceoff?  Maybe they treat it like a movie where the feature starts at 7:25 for a 7:00 movie due to the loads of ads and trailers. Do classes and lectures start late now?

I can't communicate to them how fun it was to have a full student section a full half-hour before the anthems. There were plenty of opportunities to socialize and even get individual taunts going during the opening warm-up period. And I get that schedules & priorities have changed, and you can't force people to buy tickets when factors like cost and other entertainment options exist. But if you're going to the game, GET. TO. THE. GAME.

This is the most disappointing change that has happened, and it makes a world of difference in the energy of the building.

Current students can't get to the game on time.  There are too many demands on their plate.  What with binge watching everything on Netflix, texting with their high school friends all over the country, and texting with their college roommate 6 feet away from them.  They don't even bother to attend classes, since many lectures are recorded and they can be watched without leaving their rooms. School spirit is dead (or at least dying), and this will not be changed no matter how good the team gets.

In my experience, this sort of "generational" thing cuts across generations.  Older people can't put down their phones, either.

[scoop85]

While it might help some if they could start the games at 7:30, I assume that the league wants the earlier start time so the visitors can get out sooner than later after the game.

[Trotsky]

so many townies are late as well.. and its no different at other arenas as sports.. go to the dome and see people come in 20-30 min late too.

Townies have always been late because of real life stuff: kids needs to be fed, jobs needs to be worked, snowstorms need to be navigated for 20 miles.

The kids don't have anything pressing to do, frankly.  They're still safe in the academic womb.  Get to the game, snowflakes.

[Trotsky]

While it might help some if they could start the games at 7:30, I assume that the league wants the earlier start time so the visitors can get out sooner than later after the game.

When I was a student and Gary Cullen roamed the ice, start time was 7:30.

I belief it is correct that they moved it up because the bus trips were disappearing into white outs in Potsdam at 12:30 a.m. rather than 12:00 a.m.

[nshapiro]

While it might help some if they could start the games at 7:30, I assume that the league wants the earlier start time so the visitors can get out sooner than later after the game.

When I was a student and Gary Cullen roamed the ice, start time was 7:30.

I belief it is correct that they moved it up because the bus trips were disappearing into white outs in Potsdam at 12:30 a.m. rather than 12:00 a.m.

Maybe watching Cullen slow down as he aged inspired the move to an earlier start time, although it was apparent that nothing could speed him up.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

And I remember when they moved the basketball start times to 5:00 so people might consider going to those games in addition to hockey (at 7:30).

[scoop85]

While it might help some if they could start the games at 7:30, I assume that the league wants the earlier start time so the visitors can get out sooner than later after the game.

When I was a student and Gary Cullen roamed the ice, start time was 7:30.

I belief it is correct that they moved it up because the bus trips were disappearing into white outs in Potsdam at 12:30 a.m. rather than 12:00 a.m.

Yeah, I thought the games started at 7:30 back when we were on campus in the 80's (aka the Stone Age). At least then you might be able to get to Lynah on time and still have a bite to eat without having to resort to the 5:00 early bird special (or having to eat the delicacies provided at Lynah).

[Trotsky]

Maybe watching Cullen slow down as he aged inspired the move to an earlier start time, although it was apparent that nothing could speed him up.

Not smoking three packs a day could have helped.