St. Lawrence 2 vs. Cornell 3 1/21/17

[Hooking]

My comments about lack of discipline were general in nature. Nobody likes their team to take foolish penalties. I accuse no particular individuals and still maintain that the ability to maintain focus under pressure is a valuable life skill and the best coaches of all athletic endeavors excel at instilling it. Obviously some Cornell hockey fans are pretty touchy on the subject of team discipline, but that's their problem.

[redice]

I have lamented, many times, the lack of discipline shown by Mike's teams of late, when compared to his early teams.....   I used to brag about the way his players would skate away from a scrum with their hands down by their sides.   Until this year, that "art" seemed to be lost on Mike's teams....  

The 16-17 version seems to have gotten that back and I'm very proud of the team and the coaching staff for it!!    I admit that the poor officiating led to some bad feelings building up against SLU and resulting undisciplined penalties.    Prior to that, this team was stellar in any action I've seen.....

Keep it going guys!!!

[Jim Hyla]

Not to act touchy, but looking at the stats from collegehockeyinc, it's hard to say we've been anything but average in conference penalty minutes over the last 7 seasons.

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Season Rank
16-17   5
15-16  10
14-15   2
13-14   8
12-13   4
11-12   8
10-11   1


Granted it's only 7 seasons, but it's really hard for me to see a trend here. The overall average for position in those years is 5.4/12. Not bad for being average.

(Hopefully I've copied the data correctly.::demented:

[TimV]

Too many variables to use this metric. Retaliatory penalties muddy the water, as do "technicals" such as too many men, or highly subjective obstruction/interference, embellishment, etc.  I prefer Jims tabulation below of year by year comparisons across the conference.  As an observation, totally unsupported by any data, seems to me SLU is always a pretty chippy game,  sometimes Clarkson and RPI.

[marty]

Too many variables to use this metric. Retaliatory penalties muddy the water, as do "technicals" such as too many men, or highly subjective obstruction/interference, embellishment, etc.  I prefer Jims tabulation below of year by year comparisons across the conference.  As an observation, totally unsupported by any data, seems to me SLU is always a pretty chippy game,  sometimes Clarkson and RPI.

I think it's easier to be disciplined when you are cheering or swearing in the stands as a 40+ year old than it is when you are 20+, tired with adrenalin rushing and some dope just hit you or your goalie. Some here seem to think that not retaliating is easy to teach.  Try teaching a leopard to shed his spots or a bear to retract his claws.

[Hooking]

Hopefully a Cornell student is more easily educated than a leopard or a bear. Channeling aggression into performance is a prerequisite for top athletes and top teams.

[marty]

Hopefully a Cornell student is more easily educated than a leopard or a bear. Channeling aggression into performance is a prerequisite for top athletes and top teams.

I agree but my lower limbic system sometimes does not.  I believe much of our personality is hard wired.  We all hate dumb penalties.  That doesn't mean it's easy to coach away that which causes them.

[Trotsky]

Hopefully a Cornell student is more easily educated than a leopard or a bear.

You ever eaten with one?

[Hooking]

I tried and tried, but they all rushed off to study when I began to eat.

[TimV]

I tried and tried, but they all rushed off to study when I began to eat.

Yup.  Those leopards grind and grind.  Real gunners.  Especially the pre-meds.::crazy::

[imafrshmn]

I just caught this quote in the Daily Sun article. Did anyone else notice?

"I think our crowd — our students — have to show up," he said. "We were excited but I saw our players looking up in the crowd and going, 'Where the hell are the fans? ... I know not everybody is back but this has been continuing on here ... To skate out and hear the roar of your student body, there's no better feeling than it ... If we're going to carry our title as the best fans in college hockey, we have to be the best fans in college hockey."

I sure hope Any Noel heard him.

[BearLover]

I just caught this quote in the Daily Sun article. Did anyone else notice?

"I think our crowd — our students — have to show up," he said. "We were excited but I saw our players looking up in the crowd and going, 'Where the hell are the fans? ... I know not everybody is back but this has been continuing on here ... To skate out and hear the roar of your student body, there's no better feeling than it ... If we're going to carry our title as the best fans in college hockey, we have to be the best fans in college hockey."

I sure hope Any Noel heard him.

Really sad.  I've said this before, but the crowd is the most unique and therefore best recruiting tool we have.  It factors into every player's decision to attend Cornell.  Hell, it factored into my decision to attend Cornell.  The crowd dies and the entire program dies.

[Jim Hyla]

I just caught this quote in the Daily Sun article. Did anyone else notice?

"I think our crowd — our students — have to show up," he said. "We were excited but I saw our players looking up in the crowd and going, 'Where the hell are the fans? ... I know not everybody is back but this has been continuing on here ... To skate out and hear the roar of your student body, there's no better feeling than it ... If we're going to carry our title as the best fans in college hockey, we have to be the best fans in college hockey."

I sure hope Any Noel heard him.

Really sad.  I've said this before, but the crowd is the most unique and therefore best recruiting tool we have.  It factors into every player's decision to attend Cornell.  Hell, it factored into my decision to attend Cornell.  The crowd dies and the entire program dies.

Another quote:

St. Lawrence appeared to have stricken first just 1:41 into the game, but a goalie interference call erased the goal and kept the game scoreless.

I thought that at the game they said it was kicked. That's what the Game Recap says. Anyone else remember?

[marty]

I just caught this quote in the Daily Sun article. Did anyone else notice?

"I think our crowd — our students — have to show up," he said. "We were excited but I saw our players looking up in the crowd and going, 'Where the hell are the fans? ... I know not everybody is back but this has been continuing on here ... To skate out and hear the roar of your student body, there's no better feeling than it ... If we're going to carry our title as the best fans in college hockey, we have to be the best fans in college hockey."

I sure hope Any Noel heard him.

Really sad.  I've said this before, but the crowd is the most unique and therefore best recruiting tool we have.  It factors into every player's decision to attend Cornell.  Hell, it factored into my decision to attend Cornell.  The crowd dies and the entire program dies.

Another quote:

St. Lawrence appeared to have stricken first just 1:41 into the game, but a goalie interference call erased the goal and kept the game scoreless.

I thought that at the game they said it was kicked. That's what the Game Recap says. Anyone else remember?

I think Jason said it was kicked but that was not the first impression.

[redice]

I just caught this quote in the Daily Sun article. Did anyone else notice?

"I think our crowd — our students — have to show up," he said. "We were excited but I saw our players looking up in the crowd and going, 'Where the hell are the fans? ... I know not everybody is back but this has been continuing on here ... To skate out and hear the roar of your student body, there's no better feeling than it ... If we're going to carry our title as the best fans in college hockey, we have to be the best fans in college hockey."

I sure hope Any Noel heard him.

I hope the students hear him....  They're the ones that have to put down their electronic toys & get their butts to Lynah.....ON TIME!!!!

Notice he specifically mentioned "skate out and hear the roar of your student body".....   I've been saying for years what a disappointment it is that (much of) the student body can't find their way to Lynah until after the game has started....Apparently, they don't understand or care about what an inspiration it is to the team to have a full house roaring when they come onto the ice to start a game....  A damned shame....   And, it's probably not going to change any time soon....