College Hockey Podcast

[LaJollaRed]

Lately I've been listening to the "Hockey Goes to College" weekly podcast. Good stuff. The coverage is very Boston-centric, and pretty critical of the ECAC, but entertaining and informative, nonetheless.

[Trotsky]

Lately I've been listening to the "Hockey Goes to College" weekly podcast. Good stuff. The coverage is very Boston-centric, and pretty critical of the ECAC, but entertaining and informative, nonetheless.

How is it critical?  is it the old "EZAC" trope?

[ugarte]

Lately I've been listening to the "Hockey Goes to College" weekly podcast. Good stuff. The coverage is very Boston-centric, and pretty critical of the ECAC, but entertaining and informative, nonetheless.

How is it critical?  is it the old "EZAC" trope?

Respect for the teams that have earned it, less for the others. I know from chatting with him on Twitter that @twolinepass doesn't think much of Schafer as a coach.

[LGR14]

Lately I've been listening to the "Hockey Goes to College" weekly podcast. Good stuff. The coverage is very Boston-centric, and pretty critical of the ECAC, but entertaining and informative, nonetheless.

How is it critical?  is it the old "EZAC" trope?

Respect for the teams that have earned it, less for the others. I know from chatting with him on Twitter that @twolinepass doesn't think much of Schafer as a coach.

That's because Ryan Lambert is absolutely obsessed with advanced stats. If a team does not have a high corsi, then Lambert automatically concludes that the team is garbage and incapable of winning. He also concludes that the players are terrible and the coaching is a problem.

Cornell doesn't have a high corsi. It's probably the result of some combination of Schafer's overall game plan and not having players who are as fast or as skilled offensively as many of our opponents.

Of course, Lambert isn't watching Cornell games (he watches a lot of Hockey East, but I doubt he has ever turned on a regular season Cornell game outside of maybe Q and Sucks--in which case he regularly sees us getting dominated in possession).

Long story short, take Lambert's opinions with a grain of salt. There's a lot of merit to use corsi and PDO in trying to figure out whether a team's success or lack of success is likely to persist. It's also good for figuring out whether team deserves to be winning games that it's not or vice-versa. But Lambert (a writer on Puck Daddy, by the way) lives and dies by the paper metrics.

[css228]

Lately I've been listening to the "Hockey Goes to College" weekly podcast. Good stuff. The coverage is very Boston-centric, and pretty critical of the ECAC, but entertaining and informative, nonetheless.

How is it critical?  is it the old "EZAC" trope?

Respect for the teams that have earned it, less for the others. I know from chatting with him on Twitter that @twolinepass doesn't think much of Schafer as a coach.

A lot of people here don't think much of Schafer as a coach.

[ugarte]

Lately I've been listening to the "Hockey Goes to College" weekly podcast. Good stuff. The coverage is very Boston-centric, and pretty critical of the ECAC, but entertaining and informative, nonetheless.

How is it critical?  is it the old "EZAC" trope?

Respect for the teams that have earned it, less for the others. I know from chatting with him on Twitter that @twolinepass doesn't think much of Schafer as a coach.

A lot of people here don't think much of Schafer as a coach.

That's why I didn't think there would be much blowback.

[RichH]

A lot of people here don't think much of Schafer as a coach.

That's a little bit relative considering there's fewer than 20 regular participants here. The vocal "fire Schafer" pitchfork mob numbers about 3-4, which probably equals the "Schafer Forever" club. The majority seems to be in the "the past was great, but we're getting itchy for results again" philosophy.  Personally, I thought he might have wanted to try his hand in the pros and if so, he had a great chance to hand the program over to Casey.  

If you really think J. Andrew would want to go through an interview process where he has to ask candidates about Corsi QoC and Zone Start Percentage, there's a suspension bridge I'm selling.

[Trotsky]

That's a little bit relative considering there's fewer than 20 regular participants here.

Feels like a bit more.  I wonder how many posters made 100 posts in 2016.  Age could probably tell us.

[upprdeck]

lets get cornell admissions to do a better job to help with recruiting and then we can worry about a coach.

[Jim Hyla]

lets get cornell admissions to do a better job to help with recruiting and then we can worry about a coach.

Just what kind of help do you want?

[upprdeck]

how about getting kids into school here that have no problem getting admitted into other ivies for starters.

[scoop85]

how about getting kids into school here that have no problem getting admitted into other ivies for starters.

Speaking of which it appears Vlad Dzhioshvili will not be attending Cornell, as Heisenberg now lists him as uncommitted.  Given the timing, I wonder if it might be admissions related.

[css228]

A lot of people here don't think much of Schafer as a coach.

That's a little bit relative considering there's fewer than 20 regular participants here. The vocal "fire Schafer" pitchfork mob numbers about 3-4, which probably equals the "Schafer Forever" club. The majority seems to be in the "the past was great, but we're getting itchy for results again" philosophy.  Personally, I thought he might have wanted to try his hand in the pros and if so, he had a great chance to hand the program over to Casey.  

If you really think J. Andrew would want to go through an interview process where he has to ask candidates about Corsi QoC and Zone Start Percentage, there's a suspension bridge I'm selling.

I seriously doubt anyone in the pros would ever have hired Schafer, at least without going through the minors first. Dave Hakstol was the first college coach hired directly to the NHL since either Mike Keenan or Bob Johnson. In other words, a coach has to have way more success at a much higher level of college hockey to draw the eyes of an NHL GM, and Schafer was never gonna take the pay cut of being a minor league coach.And I don't buy that Andy would even know what those things are.  And before you say a coach is more than just getting results at an ivy league school, he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey. My qualms with him go way beyond what results he gets on the ice.

[ugarte]

A lot of people here don't think much of Schafer as a coach.

That's a little bit relative considering there's fewer than 20 regular participants here. The vocal "fire Schafer" pitchfork mob numbers about 3-4, which probably equals the "Schafer Forever" club. The majority seems to be in the "the past was great, but we're getting itchy for results again" philosophy.  Personally, I thought he might have wanted to try his hand in the pros and if so, he had a great chance to hand the program over to Casey.  

If you really think J. Andrew would want to go through an interview process where he has to ask candidates about Corsi QoC and Zone Start Percentage, there's a suspension bridge I'm selling.

I seriously doubt anyone in the pros would ever have hired Schafer, at least without going through the minors first. Dave Hakstol was the first college coach hired directly to the NHL since either Mike Keenan or Bob Johnson. In other words, a coach has to have way more success at a much higher level of college hockey to draw the eyes of an NHL GM, and Schafer was never gonna take the pay cut of being a minor league coach.And I don't buy that Andy would even know what those things are.  And before you say a coach is more than just getting results at an ivy league school, he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey. My qualms with him go way beyond what results he gets on the ice.

I always thought the assumption was Cornell to NHL assistant, not his own team. That seems plausible to me - or it did when the team was more consistently successful.

[Trotsky]

he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey

Careful, for your sake but mostly for Age's.  I'm honestly not sure whether a college hockey coach counts as a "public figure."