College Hockey Podcast

[Beeeej]

he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey

Careful, for your sake but mostly for Age's.  I'm honestly not sure whether a college hockey coach counts as a "public figure."

Click one more link on that second page you cite, and you'll see why Age is actually not at nearly as much risk as css228 would be.

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/230

[css228]

he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey

Careful, for your sake but mostly for Age's.  I'm honestly not sure whether a college hockey coach counts as a "public figure."

Click one more link on that second page you cite, and you'll see why Age is actually not at nearly as much risk as css228 would be.

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/230

He's a highly prominent employee of state funded institution. He's absolutely a public figure.

[marty]

he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey

Careful, for your sake but mostly for Age's.  I'm honestly not sure whether a college hockey coach counts as a "public figure."

Click one more link on that second page you cite, and you'll see why Age is actually not at nearly as much risk as css228 would be.

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/230

He's a highly prominent employee of state funded institution. He's absolutely a public figure.

Thank you, counselor CSS.

[BearLover]

And before you say a coach is more than just getting results at an ivy league school, he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey. My qualms with him go way beyond what results he gets on the ice.

Do you have any evidence of this?

[css228]

And before you say a coach is more than just getting results at an ivy league school, he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey. My qualms with him go way beyond what results he gets on the ice.

Do you have any evidence of this?

Out of respect to the source of this info, I'm not going to out them if that's why you're asking for. They were close with hockey players. They worked in athletics. And they don't make shit up.

[BearLover]

And before you say a coach is more than just getting results at an ivy league school, he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey. My qualms with him go way beyond what results he gets on the ice.

Do you have any evidence of this?

Out of respect to the source of this info, I'm not going to out them if that's why you're asking for. They were close with hockey players. They worked in athletics. And they don't make shit up.

It's worth noting that: there seem to have been almost no player disciplinary issues over Schafer's tenure, a very higher percentage of Cornell players stay four years (even the NHL prospects), and a number of our best players have excelled academically as well as athletically (Greening, Scrivens, Iles, McRae twins, etc.).  

Not sure if what you're saying is true, but there's not much in Schafer's visible track record to suggest problems off the ice.

[CAS]

My perception is that Schafer is recruiting smart kids who are also good guys.  Now if he can bring in a couple of snipers...

[RichH]

I seriously doubt anyone in the pros would ever have hired Schafer, at least without going through the minors first. Dave Hakstol was the first college coach hired directly to the NHL since either Mike Keenan or Bob Johnson. In other words, a coach has to have way more success at a much higher level of college hockey to draw the eyes of an NHL GM, and Schafer was never gonna take the pay cut of being a minor league coach.And I don't buy that Andy would even know what those things are.  And before you say a coach is more than just getting results at an ivy league school, he's been known to bully players out of majors they want to take because it doesn't conform with playing college hockey. My qualms with him go way beyond what results he gets on the ice.

Just to respond to you putting words in my mouth several times:

1) When I said "pros," I didn't mean the NHL. I never mentioned the NHL. I was thinking the same path that his peers, coaches such as Mark Morris or Brian McCutcheon took, in starting in the low minors/AHL. My thought is that he might not want to be a Jack Parker or Red Berenson and stay into his golden years. Maybe I'm wrong, as I don't know what's in the guy's head, just like you don't know if he's as motivated by money as you just implied.

2) Of course Andy doesn't know what those things are, which was EXACTLY my point.

3) Why on earth did you assume I would say that "more than just results" stuff? I never even implied that.

I'll just step aside now and let you continue your smear campaign or whatever.

[CowbellGuy]

113 people who have more than 100 posts (all time) and were active in the last year. That's as close as I can get without doing real work