Replacement Song for Swanee/Over There

[andyw2100]

As far as I can remember from freshman year, I think both cheers were in existence in 1989-90. They were definitely used in 1992-93.

And I said 30 years because it was definitely there when I started playing in pep band during spring of 1987...which in a month's time will be...you guessed it...30 years since then.

I stand corrected. (It just didn't seem that long!)

Sorry!

[Dafatone]

That cheer has been played for what, close to 30 years now (at minimum)

This is just off the top of my head, but I am reasonably certain it hasn't been close to thirty years. If I had to set an over/under, I'd set it at fourteen.

If the band somehow decides to bring back "Swanee", could we also perhaps convince them to bring back "Mary Had A Little Lamb" (Fight, Maim, Kill) as well? My fuzzy recollection is that the band stopped playing that because it was considered too violent, but I could be mistaken.

As far as I can remember from freshman year, I think both cheers were in existence in 1989-90. They were definitely used in 1992-93.

And I said 30 years because it was definitely there when I started playing in pep band during spring of 1987...which in a month's time will be...you guessed it...30 years since then.

I agree with Trotsky. The butthurt sensitivity has always been appalling to me and people are only getting more sensitive.

Countdown until someone gets sensitive about the use of *butthurt* in this thread....

What about people's butthurt over other people being butthurt?

[RichH]

That cheer has been played for what, close to 30 years now (at minimum)..and just now is there apparently someone finding it offensive in some way?

Makes me really want to know whether this is coming straight from athletics or the pep band themselves thought the change needed to be made.  If the athletic department mandated this, there isn't much that can be done since we know how they work.  If it's a student band decision though, well then I'm embarrassed as a band and pep band alum.

As another pep band alumnus who is pretty well-removed: I heard through the vine last MSG weekend that there was a petition started on campus to get the band to stop playing it for the historical reasons stated in the other thread. What can you do once it comes to that point? The last thing the Athletics Department and the band wants is for anything related to this to get picked up by any media with any attention. There's no real reason to "make a stand" about this particular cheer, so they have just agreed to change it/end it and move on, butthurt or not.

[ugarte]

Countdown until someone gets sensitive about the use of *butthurt* in this thread....

"Though I know I'm being an asshole, just wait... soon someone's gonna call me an asshole!"

[kla52]

That cheer has been played for what, close to 30 years now (at minimum)

This is just off the top of my head, but I am reasonably certain it hasn't been close to thirty years. If I had to set an over/under, I'd set it at fourteen.

If the band somehow decides to bring back "Swanee", could we also perhaps convince them to bring back "Mary Had A Little Lamb" (Fight, Maim, Kill) as well? My fuzzy recollection is that the band stopped playing that because it was considered too violent, but I could be mistaken.

When I was conductor, I really wanted to bring back "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but was turned down, especially since athletics was threatening to keep us from playing Gary Glitter.

Also, on the topic of trying to be politically correct, we tried to push through learning and playing a fantastic arrangement of "Forget You", but then someone decided it was a good idea to ask athletics if "we were allowed to play a song that had alternative lyrics that contained the f word." *sigh*

[andyw2100]

When I was conductor, I really wanted to bring back "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but was turned down, especially since athletics was threatening to keep us from playing Gary Glitter.

What was the objection to "Fight, Maim, Kill?" Maiming and killing is more violent than dying and dropping dead?

[LGR14]

When I was conductor, I really wanted to bring back "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but was turned down, especially since athletics was threatening to keep us from playing Gary Glitter.

What was the objection to "Fight, Maim, Kill?" Maiming and killing is more violent than dying and dropping dead?

And calling on Bâby to kill someone

[Scersk '97]

My recollection on that one is that the trumpets just stopped playing it. Never heard a reason.

Arbitrary decisions like that do happen sometimes. Like stopping playing "Soul Man": it's a matter of people with bad taste not recognizing how awesome a song (and arrangement) is.

[marty]

And calling on Bâby to kill someone

Drifting...

I got a kick out of listening to the animated RIT like fans at Penn State doing their version of "Hey Baby" last night. ESPNU broadcast their team's dissection of Michigan.

It's also an RIP band favorite played as the fans trudge out of Houston FH after the game. Often my wife and I sing the correct words.  Though relatively impossible to know who had it first I assume the NCAA hockey community owes a debt of thanks to Stephen's ancestors.

[Trotsky]

Countdown until someone gets sensitive about the use of *butthurt* in this thread....

You handle your prostate your way...

[Trotsky]

That cheer has been played for what, close to 30 years now (at minimum)

This is just off the top of my head, but I am reasonably certain it hasn't been close to thirty years. If I had to set an over/under, I'd set it at fourteen.

If the band somehow decides to bring back "Swanee", could we also perhaps convince them to bring back "Mary Had A Little Lamb" (Fight, Maim, Kill) as well? My fuzzy recollection is that the band stopped playing that because it was considered too violent, but I could be mistaken.

When I was conductor, I really wanted to bring back "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but was turned down, especially since athletics was threatening to keep us from playing Gary Glitter.

Also, on the topic of trying to be politically correct, we tried to push through learning and playing a fantastic arrangement of "Forget You", but then someone decided it was a good idea to ask athletics if "we were allowed to play a song that had alternative lyrics that contained the f word." *sigh*

Fight, maim, kill started in C (then a student section) during my junior year, that was '84.  It was a great cheer and no profanity, when the admin cracked down on it was them jumping the shark.

Tubas was great until the dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stupidity started sometime around (IIRC) the early 90s.  It's still great to give the tubas their moment.  It should be saved somehow.

(Is this the time to mention that remote control goalie has to go?  There is nothing worse than all the numb nuts fixated on yelling "bend over" while the play is in our end and we're trying to prevent a goal.)

[Chris '03]

My recollection on that one is that the trumpets just stopped playing it. Never heard a reason.

This. Played every night when I was a freshman. Barely heard by the time I graduated. It faded away because trumpets....

[Lauren '06]

By the time I came along, nobody was saying "Fight Maim Kill;" it was "This Cheer Sucks."

[redice]

(Is this the time to mention that remote control goalie has to go?  There is nothing worse than all the numb nuts fixated on yelling "bend over" while the play is in our end and we're trying to prevent a goal.)

Most of the remote control goalie is cute....  Even the "bend over" is funny for the first 5 seconds...  After that, it's tedious & makes them look like, oh yes, numb nuts!!!

[Trotsky]

(Is this the time to mention that remote control goalie has to go?  There is nothing worse than all the numb nuts fixated on yelling "bend over" while the play is in our end and we're trying to prevent a goal.)

Most of the remote control goalie is cute....  Even the "bend over" is funny for the first 5 seconds...  After that, it's tedious & makes them look like, oh yes, numb nuts!!!

I agree, but how are you going to get them to stop after say 3 bend overs?