Cornell lacrosse 2017

[ugarte]

*tugs collar* 10-9 Penn.

[billhoward]

*tugs collar* 10-9 Penn.

Crushing loss. We led 9-7, gave up 3 straight to Penn, had the ball at the end, sent a shot just high ... and Penn had the play backed up better than Cornell, so Quakers got the ball and ran down the clock. Note this: With just a couple seconds left to play to protect that one goal lead, Penn's clear was this: loft the ball skyward into the far end of the field. No danger of a takeaway. I'm not sure where it came down because the video guy didn't pan to follow. But the game ended, no miracle at the midfield.

Freshman Connor Fletcher had another monster game, 5G 1A, 21 points after 7 games. Jeff Teat was 2-1, 29 points for the season.

We are 0-2 in the Ivies now. Penn was a game Cornell needed to win to have a reasonable chance to make the playoffs. Seven teams, four go. We have to find 4 wins, maybe three, out of Brown (maybe), Princeton (maybe not), Dartmouth (good chance, just 1 win overall), Harvard (?). A 4-2 team always goes, a 3-3 team did last year; in 2015, 3-3 Yale went, 3-3 Penn (which lost RS to Yale) did not.

This week, HM Yale upset #12 Princeton 16-13 and Harvard beat Dartmouth 14-7. http://www.ivyleague.com/sports/mlax/2016-17/standings

The nation's best freshman may be Michael Sowers of Princeton, 19-23--42 after eight games. Versus Yale, first game without a goal. #10 on Inside Lacrosse freshman rankings.

[upprdeck]

cornell had UV beat,  throttled colgate who almost too down Army and Army beat SU, then cornell had Penn beat late too.

 at least its been a game worth watching late.  too bad its only the fr who seem to be doing anything, get 2-3 of those next year and maybe we have something going in the right diection.

[CU77]

A 4-2 team always goes, a 3-3 team did last year; in 2015, 3-3 Yale went, 3-3 Penn (which lost RS to Yale) did not.

3-3 usually gets in; that Penn team is the only exception in the history of the ILT. Basically you need to beat the 3 teams that don't get in.

But we really needed the win over Penn today to have a decent shot at 3-3.

[Ken711]

Cornell isn't going to the playoffs this year, that is clearly evident.

[MW123]

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[Greenberg '97]

Note this: With just a couple seconds left to play to protect that one goal lead, Penn's clear was this: loft the ball skyward into the far end of the field. No danger of a takeaway.

Fortunately, a game where this play would have resulted in a national championship never actually happened.

We're still repressing, right?

[Johnny 5]

And, what team is now ranked #1 in D-1 at 9-0??
Wow, where can we find a coach like that!!??

::bang::

[billhoward]

4 of top 10 this week are from New York State http://www.usila.org/index.aspx

5 Syracuse
7 Hofstra
8 Albany'
9 Army
Plus Stony Brook and Binghamton received votes.

[CU77]

And, what team is now ranked #1 in D-1 at 9-0??
Wow, where can we find a coach like that!!??

There was never any chance Tambroni would stay at Cornell. Great coaches leave the Ivys for better recruiting elsewhere. The list includes Starsia, Tierney, Tillman, and Tiffany in addition to Tambroni.

On this basis, I suggest looking for a new coach whose name begins with S or (preferably) T!

[RichH]

And, what team is now ranked #1 in D-1 at 9-0??
Wow, where can we find a coach like that!!??

There was never any chance Tambroni would stay at Cornell. Great coaches leave the Ivys for better recruiting elsewhere. The list includes Starsia, Tierney, Tillman, and Tiffany in addition to Tambroni.

On this basis, I suggest looking for a new coach whose name begins with S or (preferably) T!

Yeah, but Tierney was at Princeton for 22 seasons and was already a Hall of Famer when he left. Hardly a "stepping stone" stay.

[billhoward]

The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

[Ken711]

The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct.  Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/the-highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches/

[billhoward]

The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct.  Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/the-highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches/

Some coaches must be getting residuals on this list of 119. Rick Majerus checked December 2012.

The Highest Paid College Basketball Coaches:
[list=1]Mike Krzyzewski – Duke: $9.7 million
Rick Pitino – Louisville: $5.8 million
John Calipari – Kentucky: $5.5 million
Bill Self – Kansas: $5 million
Billy Donovan – Florida: $3.9 million
Tom Izzo – Michigan State: $3.9 million
Steve Alford – UCLA: $3.5 million
Thad Matta – Ohio State: $3.3 million
Bob Huggins – West Virginia: $3 million
Josh Pastner – Memphis: $2.7 million
Sean Miller – University of Arizona: $2.6 million
Rick Barnes – Texas: $2.6 million
John Beilein – Michigan: $2.5 million
Jay Wright – Villanova: $2.5 million
Travis Ford – Oklahoma State: $2.5 million
Jamie Dixon – Pittsburgh: $2.4 million
Bo Ryan – Wisconsin: $2.4 million
Matt Painter – Purdue: $2.325 million
Tom Crean – Indiana: $2.240 million
Tony Bennett – Virginia: $2.3 million
Lon Kruger – Oklahoma: $2.2 million
Scott Drew – Baylor: $2.1 million
Mark Gottfried – North Carolina State: $2 million
Kevin Stallings – Vanderbilt: $1.922 million
John Thompson III – Georgetown: $1.894 million
Dana Altman – Oregon: $1.8 million
Roy Williams – North Carolina: $1.71 million
Frank Haith – Tulsa: $1.6 million
Frank Martin – University of South Carolina: $1.56 million
Jim Boeheim – Syracuse: $1.521 million
Leonard Hamilton – Florida State: $1.5 million
Gregg Marshall – Wichita State: $1.45 million
Jim Larranaga – Miami: $1.3 million
Mick Cronin – Cincinnati: $1.25 million
Shaka Smart – Virginia Commonwealth: $1.19 million
Mark Few – Gonzaga: $1.056 million
Greg McDermott – Creighton: $1.025 million
Stan Heath – South Florida: $875,000
Fred Hoiberg – Iowa State: $850,000
Steve Fisher – San Diego State: $800,000
Tommy Amaker – Harvard: $700,000
Jim Ferry – Duquesne: $600,000
Tad Boyle – Colorado: $580,000
Tim Miles – University of Nebraska: $585,000
Mike Brey – Notre Dame: $573,974
Fran Dunphy – Temple: $547,403
Rick Byrd – Belmont: $524,674
Chris Mack – Xavier: $484,399
Dave Rice – Nevada Las Vegas: $450,000
Dan Monson – Long Beach State: $445,054
Larry Eustachy – Colorado State: $430,000
Randy Bennett – Saint Mary's: $396,317
Ray Harper – Western Kentucky: $375,000
Ray McCallum – Detroit: $341,775
Marvin Menzies – New Mexico State: $340,500
Mark Schmidt – St. Bonaventure: $328,465
Bob McKillop – Davidson: $321,345
John Giannini – La Salle: $275,000
Steve Prohm – Murray State: $205,000

[Ken711]

The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct.  Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/the-highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches/

Some coaches must be getting residuals on this list of 119. Rick Majerus checked December 2012.

The Highest Paid College Basketball Coaches:
[list=1]Mike Krzyzewski – Duke: $9.7 million
Rick Pitino – Louisville: $5.8 million
John Calipari – Kentucky: $5.5 million
Bill Self – Kansas: $5 million
Billy Donovan – Florida: $3.9 million
Tom Izzo – Michigan State: $3.9 million
Steve Alford – UCLA: $3.5 million
Thad Matta – Ohio State: $3.3 million
Bob Huggins – West Virginia: $3 million
Josh Pastner – Memphis: $2.7 million
Sean Miller – University of Arizona: $2.6 million
Rick Barnes – Texas: $2.6 million
John Beilein – Michigan: $2.5 million
Jay Wright – Villanova: $2.5 million
Travis Ford – Oklahoma State: $2.5 million
Jamie Dixon – Pittsburgh: $2.4 million
Bo Ryan – Wisconsin: $2.4 million
Matt Painter – Purdue: $2.325 million
Tom Crean – Indiana: $2.240 million
Tony Bennett – Virginia: $2.3 million
Lon Kruger – Oklahoma: $2.2 million
Scott Drew – Baylor: $2.1 million
Mark Gottfried – North Carolina State: $2 million
Kevin Stallings – Vanderbilt: $1.922 million
John Thompson III – Georgetown: $1.894 million
Dana Altman – Oregon: $1.8 million
Roy Williams – North Carolina: $1.71 million
Frank Haith – Tulsa: $1.6 million
Frank Martin – University of South Carolina: $1.56 million
Jim Boeheim – Syracuse: $1.521 million
Leonard Hamilton – Florida State: $1.5 million
Gregg Marshall – Wichita State: $1.45 million
Jim Larranaga – Miami: $1.3 million
Mick Cronin – Cincinnati: $1.25 million
Shaka Smart – Virginia Commonwealth: $1.19 million
Mark Few – Gonzaga: $1.056 million
Greg McDermott – Creighton: $1.025 million
Stan Heath – South Florida: $875,000
Fred Hoiberg – Iowa State: $850,000
Steve Fisher – San Diego State: $800,000
Tommy Amaker – Harvard: $700,000
Jim Ferry – Duquesne: $600,000
Tad Boyle – Colorado: $580,000
Tim Miles – University of Nebraska: $585,000
Mike Brey – Notre Dame: $573,974
Fran Dunphy – Temple: $547,403
Rick Byrd – Belmont: $524,674
Chris Mack – Xavier: $484,399
Dave Rice – Nevada Las Vegas: $450,000
Dan Monson – Long Beach State: $445,054
Larry Eustachy – Colorado State: $430,000
Randy Bennett – Saint Mary's: $396,317
Ray Harper – Western Kentucky: $375,000
Ray McCallum – Detroit: $341,775
Marvin Menzies – New Mexico State: $340,500
Mark Schmidt – St. Bonaventure: $328,465
Bob McKillop – Davidson: $321,345
John Giannini – La Salle: $275,000
Steve Prohm – Murray State: $205,000

There are some reports that Amaker is making close to $1 million with athletic companies and alumni dollars added on.