Cornell lacrosse 2017

Started by billhoward, August 03, 2016, 03:52:25 PM

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billhoward

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1 This week's top ten. Imagine this being possible 10 years ago. Or 5.

1  Rutgers
2  Notre Dame
3  Penn State
4  Ohio State
5  Hofstra
6  Syracuse
7  Denver
8  Army
9  Albany
10 Maryland

The first three Big Ten schools - Rutgers, Penn State, Ohio State -- are unbeaten. So is Hofstra. Also in the top 20 are Richmond and BU.

Princeton is 13, Penn & Yale are also-mention. Brown, which just missed making the title game last year, is nowhere to be seen.

Four NYS schools in the top ten: Hofstra, Syracsue, Army, Albany. Binghamton and Stony Brook get a mention.

Perhaps we can argue we are the nation's best 0-5 team.

CAS

Given we've been competitive in only one of the five games, having lost the other four by a minimum of 8 goals, can we claim we are the best 0-5 team?

Swampy

Quote from: CASGiven we've been competitive in only one of the five games, having lost the other four by a minimum of 8 goals, can we claim we are the best 0-5 team?

How many other 0-5 teams are there?

billhoward

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: CASGiven we've been competitive in only one of the five games, having lost the other four by a minimum of 8 goals, can we claim we are the best 0-5 team?
How many other 0-5 teams are there?

The thought is not original. Flash back to early 2013 (when Cornell was #2 in the polls):

Quote from: LaxAllStars0-5 Bryant is up next [vs. Albany], and they might be the best winless team in the nation. https://laxallstars.com/is-this-d1-lacrosse-poll-serious/
Bryant finished 8-11.

scoop85

Finally, a dominating 15-6 win over Colgate. Teat with 3G 3A, Rupp and McCulloch with 3G, Knight very solid with 15 saves.

We'll see if they can build on this with a good but not invincible Penn team coming to Schoellkopf on Saturday.

billhoward

This was a quality win, considering (considering how bad the first give games went). Colgate has wins over Hobart and Bucknell, only lost by 3 to resurgent Binghampton (as USILA current poll spells it); Bucknell and Binghamton are HMs in this week's poll.

Of the 7 players with more than 5 points this year, 5 are freshman/sophomore, 2 are junior/senior. With 6 of 13 RS games played, Jeff Teat has 25 points: 0 1 2 11 5 6. Five points a game the rest of the RS would give him 60 in 13 games. Rob Pannell put up 67 points in 17 games his first year.

Other than the Virgina OT game, when we lose, we lose badly. Let's see if this is a turning point.

upprdeck

faceoffs are really killing this team..    the UV game it was pretty even, others it has been bad.. This game they still lost faceoffs 19-6 but forced a ton of TOs. I would like to think the D has to be getting better since they spend 70% of the game playing it..

ugarte

Quote from: upprdeckfaceoffs are really killing this team..    the UV game it was pretty even, others it has been bad.. This game they still lost faceoffs 19-6 but forced a ton of TOs. I would like to think the D has to be getting better since they spend 70% of the game playing it..
Didn't our FOGO quit right before the season?

billhoward

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: upprdeckfaceoffs are really killing this team..    the UV game it was pretty even, others it has been bad.. This game they still lost faceoffs 19-6 but forced a ton of TOs. I would like to think the D has to be getting better since they spend 70% of the game playing it..
Didn't our FOGO quit right before the season?

Right you are, Ugarte. Note the cautious and interesting wording:
Quote from: Inside Lacrosse, September 2016FOGO Massimilian No Longer With Cornell Team, Retains Year of Eligibility
"The coaching staff and I both agreed that the Cornell lacrosse program wasn't the right fit for me," [FOGO Domenic] Massimilian says. Massimillian is still enrolled at Cornell and plans to use his fourth and final year of eligibility at another school for the 2018 season. He explained the decision not to transfer and play somewhere else for 2017 saying: "I love Cornell [Hotel School] and wanted to finish my last year here, graduate and then use my last year of eligibility somewhere else while pursuing a graduate degree." http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/fogo-massimilian-no-longer-with-cornell-team-retains-year-of-eligibility/36149

Coach Matt Kerwick danced around the faceoff disparity and called Cornell's 6x25 (25%) "misleading." See the Daily Sun:
Quote from: Jamil Rahmin, Cornell Daily SunOn the field, Cornell was the far more dominant team. One category that the Red was outdone in was faceoffs — — Colgate won 19 of the 25 faceoffs — a component that the team has been weak in all year.

Kerwick wasn't discouraged by the numbers on the stat sheet, however, calling them in this particular instance "misleading."

"It's an interesting stat sometimes — they came up with a few that we ended up sticking with and maybe ended up checking away from them and getting possession back," he said. "Technically we lost the faceoff, but we were able to scrap and create offense from a few of those.

Kerwick added, however, that it's an area the team "certainly has to improve upon" moving forward. http://cornellsun.com/2017/03/21/mens-lacrosse-avoids-0-6-opening-with-win-over-colgate-looks-forward-to-penn/
One wonders if you could put a stick in the hands of Gabe Dean and improve on 25% faceoff success.

Johnny 5

O.K., forgive me, please. But, I'm still confused.
The Rasimowicz kids creds are incredible, if they are to be believed.
The announcers touted him as one of the best in the country before the Penn State game.
Then he gets smoked. And, the FO stats continue to unimpress.

Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?

DeLuca gets canned under mysterious circumstances and ends up coaching at Harvard?

WTF is going on here!!??

::bang::
Cure for cancer? Soon. Cure for stupid? Never. ~ Prof. B. Honeydew

CAS

And DeLuca also coached at Duke, before becoming the associate head coach at Harvard

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Johnny 5Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?
I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events.  If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

http://www.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61576&start=180
Al DeFlorio '65

Johnny 5

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Johnny 5Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?
I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events.  If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

http://www.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61576&start=180

Thanks. I try to pay attention, I really do. Touch of ADHD.
Wasn't aware that he needed anger management intervention.
If true, Kerwick made the right call. Shame.

Guess I also need to widen my sources of lacrosse information.
I always thought that this forum was the ultimate reference. My bad.

Thanks again. ;-)
Cure for cancer? Soon. Cure for stupid? Never. ~ Prof. B. Honeydew

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Johnny 5Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?
I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events.  If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

http://www.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61576&start=180

Thanks. I try to pay attention, I really do. Touch of ADHD.
Wasn't aware that he needed anger management intervention.
If true, Kerwick made the right call. Shame.

Guess I also need to widen my sources of lacrosse information.
I always thought that this forum was the ultimate reference. My bad.

Thanks again. ;-)
No problem.  Hey, I'm glad you care so much.::cheer::
Al DeFlorio '65

Johnny 5

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Johnny 5Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?
I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events.  If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

http://www.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61576&start=180

Thanks. I try to pay attention, I really do. Touch of ADHD.
Wasn't aware that he needed anger management intervention.
If true, Kerwick made the right call. Shame.

Guess I also need to widen my sources of lacrosse information.
I always thought that this forum was the ultimate reference. My bad.

Thanks again. ;-)
No problem.  Hey, I'm glad you care so much.::cheer::

I do. I'm an alum.
And, I've successfully encouraged many of my former students to choose my alma mater; some of them stellar lax players.
So, I've had a vested interest for a long time.
Perhaps, one reason why I dislike the Syracuse program as much as I do?

"Go Big Red!!"  ::rock::
Cure for cancer? Soon. Cure for stupid? Never. ~ Prof. B. Honeydew