Quinnipiac 5 Cornell 4, ot

Started by Trotsky, November 07, 2015, 09:20:35 AM

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Trotsky

Clash of the last two 1.000 winning percentage teams (Q is 7-0-0).

Q's penalty kill is 25x25 and their pp is 10x27 (37%).  Gulp.

upprdeck

they need to clean up the sloppy play on d.  the O created tons of chances, but they gave the pack away too often under no pressure last night. Princeton didnt get a tonof shots and still have 3-4 more solid chances they should have gotten in, cornell too it was a 7-5 type game with teams that couldnt convert. cant do that tonight and win.

Trotsky

Mitch gives up a lot of juicy rebounds.  Good offensive players will punish that.

OTOH Q fans were bemoaning a sloppy effort by Q last night, saying the only thing that stopped Colgate from blowing them out was Garteig.

Swampy

Quote from: TrotskyMitch gives up a lot of juicy rebounds.  Good offensive players will punish that.

OTOH Q fans were bemoaning a sloppy effort by Q last night, saying the only thing that stopped Colgate from blowing them out was Garteig.

Well, they say the mark of a good team is that it wins even when it doesn't play particularly well. Q has 6 seniors & 10 juniors on its roster, and Pecknold might simply have to bawl them out to get the team to play better. OTOH, it might take more practice and teaching to get a younger Cornell team to clear the defensive zone regularly when faced with a strong forecheck.

Hope for the best, prepare for the ....

Iceberg

This is evidence that bad penalties are indeed bad.

tominvb

Bummer

But they did send a message that the Red are back.  Good luck guys and well played.

ithacat

Quote from: tominvbBummer

But they did send a message that the Red are back.  Good luck guys and well played.

Not sure losing at home when blowing a 3 goal lead sends that message. They appear to be more fun to watch. I'm not sure they're back yet.

dag14

Q is undefeated; and remember how we got our 3 goal lead -- scoring on a 5 minute major levied in the first minutes of the game.  So "blowing the lead" is not troublesome to me.  We lost to a better team but we stayed with them so I can live with the outcome.

upprdeck

we were the better team the first period.. quin was the better team the 2nd period.. we were the better team almost all the 3rd period.  the main diff between the teams is quin is still the quicker team in transition and that cost us a few times..  the refs were horrible most of the game.. one ref 20 ft away would call nothing and one half a rink away with no real view of a play would call it. they swallowed the whistle , then would send 2 guys off instead of making the first call time after time.

anyone see the final goal on line to see what looked live to be a high stick goal?

profudge

I believe that it deflected off of a Cornell player in front and that our keeper had no real chance on the deflection.  I did not see a high stick by Q. .
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Jim Hyla

Quote from: profudgeI believe that it deflected off of a Cornell player in front and that our keeper had no real chance on the deflection.  I did not see a high stick by Q. .

Looking at the "Highlights", by McCrea's motion and reaction, there's a good chance it deflected off him.
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Dafatone

Quote from: upprdeckwe were the better team the first period.. quin was the better team the 2nd period.. we were the better team almost all the 3rd period.  the main diff between the teams is quin is still the quicker team in transition and that cost us a few times..  the refs were horrible most of the game.. one ref 20 ft away would call nothing and one half a rink away with no real view of a play would call it. they swallowed the whistle , then would send 2 guys off instead of making the first call time after time.

anyone see the final goal on line to see what looked live to be a high stick goal?

Over-reliance on matching minors to keep players behaved is a sure sign of bad reffing.

scoop85

While it was surely disappointing to give up a 3 goal lead with less than 25 minutes left, I'm encouraged to see a far more potent attack than we've been used to the past few years, which is something so many people have been asking for. It seems we have better balance up-and-down the lineup, and if the young defense tightens up a bit, we should be in for a pretty enjoyable season.  It looks like we have some real impact freshmen, which is just what the doctor ordered.

That being said, it seems like the ECAC is as strong top-to-bottom as its been in my memory, and the team is going to have to work like heck to finish in the upper division. Based on early returns, I can see 3 or even possibly 4 ECAC teams making the NCAA's this season.

Trotsky

Quote from: scoop85While it was surely disappointing to give up a 3 goal lead with less than 25 minutes left, I'm encouraged to see a far more potent attack than we've been used to the past few years, which is something so many people have been asking for. It seems we have better balance up-and-down the lineup, and if the young defense tightens up a bit, we should be in for a pretty enjoyable season.  It looks like we have some real impact freshmen, which is just what the doctor ordered.

That being said, it seems like the ECAC is as strong top-to-bottom as its been in my memory, and the team is going to have to work like heck to finish in the upper division. Based on early returns, I can see 3 or even possibly 4 ECAC teams making the NCAA's this season.

It seems like Q, Harvard and Yale are all for real.  Let's hope we're that fourth squad.

There were long stretches in which Cornell had problems with the breakout; on the other hand when we did get moving we showed more creativity than in past years, and we had a smooth transition and didn't wind up impaled on the opposing blue line like last year.

This team has a lot of depth, and we've got three freshmen who are already among the best players on the squad (Angello, McCrae, Vanderlaan) and another who is not far behind (Starrett).  Also loving how a few of the returning players have significantly improved from last year (Weidner, Anderson, Rauter, Fiegl).

Is Tschantz hurt?  I feel like his particular style would work well in this more up tempo offense.

The defense is a weakness right now, but that's obviously Mike's strong suit and I'm sure it will come around.

Q may be the best team in the conference and one of the best in the country and we belonged on the same ice, so yes, this is very promising.

scoop85

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: scoop85While it was surely disappointing to give up a 3 goal lead with less than 25 minutes left, I'm encouraged to see a far more potent attack than we've been used to the past few years, which is something so many people have been asking for. It seems we have better balance up-and-down the lineup, and if the young defense tightens up a bit, we should be in for a pretty enjoyable season.  It looks like we have some real impact freshmen, which is just what the doctor ordered.

That being said, it seems like the ECAC is as strong top-to-bottom as its been in my memory, and the team is going to have to work like heck to finish in the upper division. Based on early returns, I can see 3 or even possibly 4 ECAC teams making the NCAA's this season.

It seems like Q, Harvard and Yale are all for real.  Let's hope we're that fourth squad.

There were long stretches in which Cornell had problems with the breakout; on the other hand when we did get moving we showed more creativity than in past years, and we had a smooth transition and didn't wind up impaled on the opposing blue line like last year.

This team has a lot of depth, and we've got three freshmen who are already among the best players on the squad (Angello, McCrae, Vanderlaan) and another who is not far behind (Starrett).  Also loving how a few of the returning players have significantly improved from last year (Weidner, Anderson, Rauter, Fiegl).

Is Tschantz hurt?  I feel like his particular style would work well in this more up tempo offense.

The defense is a weakness right now, but that's obviously Mike's strong suit and I'm sure it will come around.

Q may be the best team in the conference and one of the best in the country and we belonged on the same ice, so yes, this is very promising.

I believe Tschantz has some type of injury -- not sure of the type or severity.  I agree he would be another weapon and a good presence in front of the net.

In addition to the 3 teams you mentioned, St. Lawrence, Clarkson and RPI are showing that they may be contenders too.  Union, although stumbling a bit, will almost certainly improve over the course of the season.  Colgate is certainly no pushover, and we saw that Princeton is improved.  Dartmouth and Brown seem to be the weakest teams out of the gate, but we know that they will be feisty.