Polls 2015-16

[David Harding]

It will be interesting to see where the polls put us tomorrow.  I figure with us at 4 PWR but at 23 last week, let's say they split the difference and put us at 13/14.

Who do we displace?  My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.  
Michigan Tech (20) split with Bowling Green (15)
Clarkson (19) lost to St.L (15)[sic]
Notre Dame (18) beat and tied Northeastern
Miami (17) lost twice to North Dakota (3)
Bowling Green (15) split with Michigan Tech (2)
St. Lawrence (15) beat Clarkson (19)
Merrimack (14) beat Massachusetts and tied New Hampshire.
Minnesota-Duluth (13) split with Denver ( if you count their 3-on-3 OT win

[Trotsky]

Who do we displace?  My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.

After New Year's definitely.  But in the first couple months there can be big moves as the voters start feeling stupid that they are wildly divergent from the standings and PWR.

My impression (with no empirical analysis) is that PWR exerts gravity on the polls.

In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls until 1/1.

[KeithK]

Who do we displace?  My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.

After New Year's definitely.  But in the first couple months there can be big moves as the voters start feeling stupid that they are wildly divergent from the standings and PWR.

My impression (with no empirical analysis) is that PWR exerts gravity on the polls.

I think David has it right.  It's early enough in the season that PWR is pretty meaningless, small sample size and all. Heck, CHN doesn't even caculate it yet. So voters will feel comfortable with ignoring it. By the midpoint in the season there's enough games to start to see how things are really playing out and PWR begins to stabilize.  At that point the polls will begin to converge toward the ratings.

In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls until 1/1.

In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls.  But whatever.

[Trotsky]

In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls.

I'm right there with you.

[Jim Hyla]

I'll post them later, but we're 18.

[RichH]

It will be interesting to see where the polls put us tomorrow.  I figure with us at 4 PWR but at 23 last week, let's say they split the difference and put us at 13/14.

Who do we displace?  My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.  
Michigan Tech (20) split with Bowling Green (15)
Clarkson (19) lost to St.L (15)[sic]
Notre Dame (18) beat and tied Northeastern
Miami (17) lost twice to North Dakota (3)
Bowling Green (15) split with Michigan Tech (2)
St. Lawrence (15) beat Clarkson (19)
Merrimack (14) beat Massachusetts and tied New Hampshire.
Minnesota-Duluth (13) split with Denver ( if you count their 3-on-3 OT win

18, jumping over MTU and Clarkson.

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

[Trotsky]

16 in USA Hockey.

[Al DeFlorio]

16 in USA Hockey.

At least ahead of a 3-5-3 team.

[Jim Hyla]

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 16, 2015
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Providence (17) 6- 0-3 933 1
2 Boston College (14) 9- 1-0 926 2
[b][u]3 Quinnipiac (12) 10- 0-0 913 4[/u][/b]
4 North Dakota ( 7) 9- 1-2 891 3
5 Mass-Lowell 8- 1-2 791 5
6 Nebraska-Omaha 8- 2-0 735 6
7 St. Cloud State 8- 2-0 671 9
[b][u]8 Harvard        4- 1-1 630 7[/u][/b]
9 Denver        6- 3-1 593 8
10 Boston University 5- 3-2 534 11
[b][u]11 Yale        4- 1-1 502 10[/u][/b]
12 Michigan 5- 1-1 475 12
13 Merrimack 6- 1-3 395 14
[b][u]14 St. Lawrence 7- 3-1 351 15[/u][/b]
15 Bowling Green 5- 3-3 257 15
16 Notre Dame 5- 2-3 215 18
17 Minnesota-Duluth 3- 5-3 173 13
[b][u]18 Cornell        5- 1-0 164 NR[/u][/b]
19 Michigan Tech 6- 4-0 112 20
[b][u]20 Clarkson 5- 3-1 56 19[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Miami 50, Penn State 36, Robert Morris 25,
Massachusetts 24, [b][u]Rensselaer 21[/u][/b], Minnesota State 20,
Alaska-Anchorage 4, Wisconsin 2, Minnesota 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 16, 2015
Team             Points  (First) Last Poll Record
1 Providence College 473 (12) 1 6-0-3
[b][u]2 Qunnipiac University 459 (12) 3 10-0-0[/u][/b]
3 Boston College        455 (7) 2 9-1-0
4 Univer of North Dakota 417 (3) 4 9-1-2
5 UMass Lowell        372 5 8-1-2
6 Univer of Nebraska Omaha327 7 8-2-0
7 St Cloud State Univer 290 9 8-2-0
[b][u]8 Harvard University 263 6 4-1-1[/u][/b]
9 University of Denver 224 10 6-3-1
[b][u]10 Yale University        199 8 4-1-1[/u][/b]
11 Boston University 187 11 5-3-2
12 University of Michigan 145 12 5-1-1
13 Merrimack College 86 13 6-1-3
[b][u]14 St Lawrence University 62 15 7-3-1[/u][/b]
15 University of Notre Dame34 NR 5-2-3
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell University 29[/u][/b], University of Minnesota Duluth 19,
Bowling Green State University 11, University of Massachusetts 1,
Michigan Tech University 1, Robert Morris University 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 16, 2015
Team     (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (10) 12- 0-0 145 1
2 Boston College ( 5) 14- 0-0 137 2
3 Minnesota 11- 1-0 123 3
[b][u]4 Clarkson 13- 1-2 100 4[/u][/b]
5 Northeastern 10- 1-1 76 7
6 Bemidji State 10- 4-2 70 5
7 North Dakota 7- 3-2 53 6
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 7- 1-3 52 8
9 Harvard        5- 1-1 50 9
10 Princeton 5- 2-1 16 10[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate 2, Dartmouth 1.[/u][/b]

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
November 10, 2015
Team Points            (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Wisconsin 182 (12) 1 10-0-0
2 Boston College        176 (7) 2 11-0-0
3 University of Minnesota 155 3 9-1-0
4 Bemidji State University118 5 10-2-2
[b][u]5 Clarkson University 109 4 10-1-2[/u][/b]
6 Univer of North Dakota 98 6 6-2-2
7 Northeastern University 73 8 8-1-1
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac University 60 7 6-1-2
9 Harvard University 53 9 3-1-1
10 Princeton University 13 10 5-1-0[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Dartmouth College 5, Colgate University 1,[/u][/b]
University of Minnesota Duluth 1, Robert Morris University 1.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-womens/#ixzz3rnbIAS3E





[Trotsky]

This weekend's results for the USCHO Top 20 (with record entering weekend). Cornell ought to vault over Notre Dame, but that  may be it.

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 1 Providence (17) 6- 0-3 WW
 2 Boston College (14) 9- 1-0 -W
 3 Quinnipiac (12)   10- 0-0 TT
 4 North Dakota ( 7) 9- 1-2 W[b][color=#FF0000]L[/color][/b]
 5 Mass-Lowell 8- 1-2 TW
 6 Nebraska-Omaha 8- 2-0 TW
 7 St. Cloud State 8- 2-0 [b][color=#FF0000]L[/color][/b]W
 8 Harvard        4- 1-1 --
 9 Denver        6- 3-1 TW
10 Boston University 5- 3-2 W[b][color=#FF0000]L[/color][/b]
11 Yale        4- 1-1 TW
12 Michigan 5- 1-1 [b][color=#FF0000]L[/color][/b]W
13 Merrimack 6- 1-3 -T
14 St. Lawrence 7- 3-1 WT
15 Bowling Green 5- 3-3 WW
16 Notre Dame 5- 2-3 T[b][color=#FF0000]L[/color][/b]
17 Minnesota-Duluth 3- 5-3 WW
18 Cornell        5- 1-0 TW
19 Michigan Tech 6- 4-0 -W
20 Clarkson 5- 3-1 T[b][color=#FF0000]L[/color][/b]


[Trotsky]

To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

[ugarte]

To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

[ithacat]

To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

I was starting to feel for them until I looked at our next 7 games.

[KeithK]

To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

Well, would they feel better if it were a neutral ice series in Denver?  That long bus ride up from the Springs is exhausting. (Sorry, feeling snarky this morning.)

[ugarte]

To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

Well, would they feel better if it were a neutral ice series in Denver?  That long bus ride up from the Springs is exhausting. (Sorry, feeling snarky this morning.)

Shaddap, you.