Recruits 2016 and Beyond

Started by Trotsky, September 20, 2015, 01:07:46 PM

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abmarks

I'm not that hip to the recruiting pipeline..so what does that video have to do with recruits? Is the player involved one of ours?

Trotsky

Quote from: abmarksI'm not that hip to the recruiting pipeline..so what does that video have to do with recruits? Is the player involved one of ours?
Old Mike would have seen a kid throwing down with a ref and picked up the phone "GET ME A YOUNG DAN DUFRESNE!"  A joke.  We can't all be ugarte.

andyw2100

I'm by no means defending the kid. You can't go around shoving refs. But to be fair, it looked like the kid shoved the ref about as hard as the ref had shoved the kid, and the ref just happened to fall. It's not as if the kid punched the ref in the face or something.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: andyw2100I'm by no means defending the kid. You can't go around shoving refs. But to be fair, it looked like the kid shoved the ref about as hard as the ref had shoved the kid, and the ref just happened to fall. It's not as if the kid punched the ref in the face or something.

Yeah, knowing me, I might have done the same thing as the kid. Refs certainly can't shove players without good justification. I didn't see it here. If it wasn't for the boards, the kid might have fallen, just like the ref.  

I actually wish that the kid kept his cool and reported the ref. But as I said, I'd have a chance that I'd do the same.
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abmarks

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: andyw2100I'm by no means defending the kid. You can't go around shoving refs. But to be fair, it looked like the kid shoved the ref about as hard as the ref had shoved the kid, and the ref just happened to fall. It's not as if the kid punched the ref in the face or something.

Yeah, knowing me, I might have done the same thing as the kid. Refs certainly can't shove players without good justification. I didn't see it here. If it wasn't for the boards, the kid might have fallen, just like the ref.  

I actually wish that the kid kept his cool and reported the ref. But as I said, I'd have a chance that I'd do the same.

Actually you should re-watch the video.  The ref had grabbed a piece of jersey to steer the kid away from mid-ice and over to the penalty box - and that should be OK for a ref to do I'd think.  The kid then throws an elbow back at the ref in what looks like an attempt to get the ref to let go of the jersey.  The ref's "shove" of the kid happens right after that - and watching it a few times it's really more like a gentle push in the direction of the box.  it's just a little arm motion- the legs don't even change.

But when the kid turns around he puts his whole body into it and throws a two-handed shove that is basically a cross-check minus the stick.


Sorry, the kid is a punk and 100% at fault.  That was enough for a multiple game suspension in men's rec leagues I played in.  He should definitely be suspended in a high school setting.

andyw2100

Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: andyw2100I'm by no means defending the kid. You can't go around shoving refs. But to be fair, it looked like the kid shoved the ref about as hard as the ref had shoved the kid, and the ref just happened to fall. It's not as if the kid punched the ref in the face or something.

Yeah, knowing me, I might have done the same thing as the kid. Refs certainly can't shove players without good justification. I didn't see it here. If it wasn't for the boards, the kid might have fallen, just like the ref.  

I actually wish that the kid kept his cool and reported the ref. But as I said, I'd have a chance that I'd do the same.

Actually you should re-watch the video.  The ref had grabbed a piece of jersey to steer the kid away from mid-ice and over to the penalty box - and that should be OK for a ref to do I'd think.  The kid then throws an elbow back at the ref in what looks like an attempt to get the ref to let go of the jersey.  The ref's "shove" of the kid happens right after that - and watching it a few times it's really more like a gentle push in the direction of the box.  it's just a little arm motion- the legs don't even change.

But when the kid turns around he puts his whole body into it and throws a two-handed shove that is basically a cross-check minus the stick.


Sorry, the kid is a punk and 100% at fault.  That was enough for a multiple game suspension in men's rec leagues I played in.  He should definitely be suspended in a high school setting.

I have watched the video several times. I agree the kid deserves whatever punishment ensued simply for shoving the ref. My main point was that the fact that the ref fell made it look more dramatic than it was.

If you look closely, you can see the kid put his hands on the right side of the ref, and the ref was turning as he fell. I think the fall was due more to the ref being off-balance than due to the force of the shove. The fall made the whole incident appear more dramatic. That's my point.

upprdeck

the fact the kid was dragged and pulled most of the way, makes it appear he may have been a bit out of control too.

oh well both have to take some blame..  of course its a hockey game the kid hit the wall 10x harder i suspect during the actual game

TimV

Quote from: andyw2100My main point was that the fact that the ref fell made it look more dramatic than it was.
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Ref embellishment???::wtf::  Hey! Weidner!  Show him how it's done...
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."


abmarks

Quote from: ursusminorJack O'Leary 2019 http://www.usphl.com/news_article/show/756714?referral=rss

Let's hope he fills out a bit...


QuoteJack O'Leary #97·F
Date of Birth   03/28/2000
Height   5'6
Weight   125

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: ursusminorJack O'Leary 2019 http://www.usphl.com/news_article/show/756714?referral=rss

Let's hope he fills out a bit...


QuoteJack O'Leary #97·F
Date of Birth   03/28/2000
Height   5'6
Weight   125
Good thing he's speedy.
Al DeFlorio '65

billhoward

Quote from: ursusminorJack O'Leary 2019 http://www.usphl.com/news_article/show/756714?referral=rss
From the name, we stole one from BC, BU and the Beanpot.

marty

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From the name, we stole one from BC, BU and the Beanpot.

Be thankful he isn't named Oh Cleary.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

scoop85

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Quote from: ursusminorJack O'Leary 2019 http://www.usphl.com/news_article/show/756714?referral=rss

Let's hope he fills out a bit...


QuoteJack O'Leary #97·F
Date of Birth   03/28/2000
Height   5'6
Weight   125
Good thing he's speedy.

According to this report from Jeff Cox of SBNation Hockey last September, he's grown a bit:

Jack O'Leary, #7 PAL Islanders, 5-9/150, 3/28/00, Left Wing, Shoots Left - He's the offensive catalyst for his team. He's quick and the puck goes through him to make plays.

Trotsky

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Quote from: ursusminorJack O'Leary 2019 http://www.usphl.com/news_article/show/756714?referral=rss

Let's hope he fills out a bit...


QuoteJack O'Leary #97·F
Date of Birth   03/28/2000
Height   5'6
Weight   125
Good thing he's speedy.

Between my 16th and 22nd birthdays I grew 5 inches.  Which, if you know me, is a damn good thing.