Cornell at RPI

Started by Trotsky, January 17, 2015, 06:41:33 PM

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Trotsky

One lineup change: Anderson in for Patrick McCarron.

Ken711

Cornell down 3-0 at 12:54 in the 3rd period.

upprdeck

while the result was not great I thought cornell played a better game than what the played vs union.. a couple mistakes on D led to goals but tons of scoring chances and creative play on offense.  just nothing went in the net.

marty

Quote from: upprdeckwhile the result was not great I thought cornell played a better game than what the played vs union.. a couple mistakes on D led to goals but tons of scoring chances and creative play on offense.  just nothing went in the net.

Kasdorf, too?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Trotsky

The final 3 minutes with the goalie pulled, we won every faceoff in the offensive end and set up a ton of screened shots.  It was pure bad luck we didn't get at least one goal out of it, particularly Dias' (?) who had Kasdorf dead to right from 2 feet away, and Ryan's perfect angle shot that just brushed the blocker and went an inch wide of the far post.

Losing sucks, but we played well except for the first 5 minutes of the final period.  That was where we lost the game.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyThe final 3 minutes with the goalie pulled, we won every faceoff in the offensive end and set up a ton of screened shots.  It was pure bad luck we didn't get at least one goal out of it, particularly Dias' (?) who had Kasdorf dead to right from 2 feet away, and Ryan's perfect angle shot that just brushed the blocker and went an inch wide of the far post.

Losing sucks, but we played well except for the first 5 minutes of the final period.  That was where we lost the game.
Bad luck, or the fact that this team doesn't really know how to play offense?

ursusminor

Quote from: marty
Quote from: upprdeckwhile the result was not great I thought cornell played a better game than what the played vs union.. a couple mistakes on D led to goals but tons of scoring chances and creative play on offense.  just nothing went in the net.

Kasdorf, too?


IMO, Kasdorf was the difference. He appears to have returned to the form of two years ago after a couple of injuries. Neither team has a potent offense, and both teams' defenses played pretty well.

BTW, I am curious as to how well the Cornell audio was synched to RPI-TV's feed. I assume that some of you watched RPI-TV with the Cornell audio link.

Iceberg

Kasdorf was good, but the offense seems to have some issues setting themselves up for good offensive chances. Lots and lots of boardplay but nothing really resulting from it.


The RPI guy also seemed to have a lot of trouble with pronouncing names (Bardeau).

Trotsky

Quote from: IcebergThe RPI guy also seemed to have a lot of trouble with pronouncing names (Bardeau).

"Gillam" was an adventure, too.  I heard at least four variations.

scoop85

Quote from: IcebergKasdorf was good, but the offense seems to have some issues setting themselves up for good offensive chances. Lots and lots of boardplay but nothing really resulting from it.

This seems to me the crux of the matter, and is a concern to me for the remainder of this season and especially the next few seasons. Right now Bardeau is clearly our most creative and dangerous forward, and there doesn't appear to be anyone in the classes behind him who will be able to fill his role.  We just don't have enough guys who can create off the rush, and notwithstanding the oft-repeated comments about our great size, we do not seem to win enough battles in the corners that produce even reasonable scoring opportunities, except on the power play.

Add in next year's loss of Ryan and MacDonald on the blueline, and the offensive problems only seem to be more glaring.

We can only hope there are some decently talented forwards in next year's Freshman class, as we sure are going to need them.

ursusminor

Quote from: IcebergKasdorf was good, but the offense seems to have some issues setting themselves up for good offensive chances. Lots and lots of boardplay but nothing really resulting from it.

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The RPI guy also seemed to have a lot of trouble with pronouncing names (Bardeau).
Whose offense are you referring to by "the offense seems to have some issues setting themselves up for good offensive chances"?

Even I noticed that "Bardeau" was pronounced differently almost every time that Tom said his name. That surprised me because I am sure that he knows the proper way. Perhaps it was nervousness since he doesn't do play-by-play often. I am surprised that you listened to WRPI's audio rather than Cornell's, or didn't the link to that from RPI-TV work properly ?

Scersk '97

Quote from: scoop85Right now Bardeau is clearly our most creative and dangerous forward, and there doesn't appear to be anyone in the classes behind him who will be able to fill his role.

I can't more strenuously disgree. With the exception of McCarron, whose troubles (.62 ppg frosh–junior; .35 ppg senior) are almost not worth going into, Bardreau is our least dangerous forward, precisely because he probably wouldn't hit the broadside of a barn with an 18-wheeler these days. Indeed, I saw him given a lane to the net last night with no one stepping in because, obviously, RPI knows what's going on with us and with him. He's also the king of the the unnecessary, ticky-tacky extra pass that, in its unfathomable brilliance, absolutely wastes a golden scoring opportunity. For all his flash and dash, what he needs to do is simplify his game and put the puck on net, low and hard to the stick side to generate some rebounds. Until he starts scoring at somewhere near the pace he has historically, teams are going to wait for him to dish. He needs to restore league-wide respect for his scoring ability.

Our only dangerous forwards are Buckles and Hilbrich. Why? Because they shoot without being fancy and can put the puck in the net. If I were Schafer, I'd put McCarron and Bardreau back together (maybe with Dias) as some kind of "super checking line" and fill the rest of the lines with junior-sophomore combos that can start developing chemistry for next year. This would not be throwing in the towel, either; rather, I think it's the best use of these guys. Maybe Bardreau would fire McCarron back up; maybe Dias's speed could be used by Bardreau to offensive benefit.

PS Kubiak's been out for three games now? Out of favor or injured? I think we miss him.

scoop85

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: scoop85Right now Bardeau is clearly our most creative and dangerous forward, and there doesn't appear to be anyone in the classes behind him who will be able to fill his role.

I can't more strenuously disgree. With the exception of McCarron, whose troubles (.62 ppg frosh–junior; .35 ppg senior) are almost not worth going into, Bardreau is our least dangerous forward, precisely because he probably wouldn't hit the broadside of a barn with an 18-wheeler these days. Indeed, I saw him given a lane to the net last night with no one stepping in because, obviously, RPI knows what's going on with us and with him. He's also the king of the the unnecessary, ticky-tacky extra pass that, in its unfathomable brilliance, absolutely wastes a golden scoring opportunity. For all his flash and dash, what he needs to do is simplify his game and put the puck on net, low and hard to the stick side to generate some rebounds. Until he starts scoring at somewhere near the pace he has historically, teams are going to wait for him to dish. He needs to restore league-wide respect for his scoring ability.

Our only dangerous forwards are Buckles and Hilbrich. Why? Because they shoot without being fancy and can put the puck in the net. If I were Schafer, I'd put McCarron and Bardreau back together (maybe with Dias) as some kind of "super checking line" and fill the rest of the lines with junior-sophomore combos that can start developing chemistry for next year. This would not be throwing in the towel, either; rather, I think it's the best use of these guys. Maybe Bardreau would fire McCarron back up; maybe Dias's speed could be used by Bardreau to offensive benefit.

PS Kubiak's been out for three games now? Out of favor or injured? I think we miss him.

I get that Bardreau's shooting is imperfect (to say the least) and Buckles and Hilbrich can actually hit the net. But at least watching Bardreau I have at least a faint belief that something might happen to create a scoring opportunity.

KeithK

Quote from: ursusminorI am surprised that you listened to WRPI's audio rather than Cornell's, or didn't the link to that from RPI-TV work properly ?
I clicked the Cornell audio button but still got the RPI feed.  It really wasn't enough of a big deal to figure out whether I was doing something wrong.

ursusminor

Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: ursusminorI am surprised that you listened to WRPI's audio rather than Cornell's, or didn't the link to that from RPI-TV work properly ?
I clicked the Cornell audio button but still got the RPI feed.  It really wasn't enough of a big deal to figure out whether I was doing something wrong.

Thanks. That's interesting.