Recruits 2014

Started by Trotsky, February 11, 2014, 08:58:13 AM

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Swampy

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CASChad Otterman is projected as a mid-round draft pick by NHL Central Scouting. There are now 4 Cornell recruits listed in the midterm rankings.
This is great news, especially since we will not be too badly damaged by this year's graduations (assuming Gillam / Hackett can replace Iles).  It helps to flatten out the "key class / support class" two-piston cycle that has been building lately as well.

We have way too many forwards slated to enter this Fall.  Maybe some of them are insurance against junior defections or underclass washouts.

Yes, but BRPH lists him as 2015. Our very strong current class of juniors will have graduated by the time Chad arrives on the hill.

Among those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.

As we've seen this year with Matt Buckles, even extraordinary scorers take some time to adjust to the college game. So while the pipeline looks very good, and next year's team should be a serious contender for league and national honors, (and with no disrespect for the incoming class) I'm afraid the pipeline is not going to add a tremendous amount of firepower to the 2014-2015 team. OTOH, defensemen Bliss and Wedman may be able to help out significantly.

Trotsky

Quote from: SwampyAmong those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
Booth, Starrett and Tschantz being later helps; it would give us 4 entering forwards (Angello, Rauter, Vanderlaan, Yates) to replace the 3 graduating (Craig, Mowrey, de Swardt), which is reasonable.

BTW, Elite Prospects still has Cimetta heading for Cornell.  He's off BRPH.  Is that definite?

pfibiger

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampyAmong those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
Booth, Starrett and Tschantz being later helps; it would give us 4 entering forwards (Angello, Rauter, Vanderlaan, Yates) to replace the 3 graduating (Craig, Mowrey, de Swardt), which is reasonable.

BTW, Elite Prospects still has Cimetta heading for Cornell.  He's off BRPH.  Is that definite?

A more interesting question is: Where did Matt Cimetta go? This summer he was training with the Abbots:

http://www.theobserver.ca/2013/07/18/abbotts-run-sarnia--program-after-starting-as-camp-counsellors

And then he disappeared. He is on no findable hockey roster for this year, and there's no article or discussion of injury. Maybe he gave up hockey?
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

Trotsky

Quote from: pfibigerA more interesting question is: Where did Matt Cimetta go? This summer he was training with the Abbots:

http://www.theobserver.ca/2013/07/18/abbotts-run-sarnia--program-after-starting-as-camp-counsellors

And then he disappeared. He is on no findable hockey roster for this year, and there's no article or discussion of injury. Maybe he gave up hockey?
He was expected to be the Sarnia (GOHL) captain this year, and he was a Sarnia (OHL) draft pick (that's where I assumed he had passed us up for).

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: pfibigerA more interesting question is: Where did Matt Cimetta go? This summer he was training with the Abbots:

http://www.theobserver.ca/2013/07/18/abbotts-run-sarnia--program-after-starting-as-camp-counsellors

And then he disappeared. He is on no findable hockey roster for this year, and there's no article or discussion of injury. Maybe he gave up hockey?
He was expected to be the Sarnia (GOHL) captain this year, and he was a Sarnia (OHL) draft pick (that's where I assumed he had passed us up for).
In looks like Sarnia has his rights but I found a Facebook page that I think is him (has references to Sarnia) and he appears to be a freshman at the University of Waterloo.

scoop85

https://twitter.com/ushrhockey/status/435966410888450048

The staff certainly seems to be bringing in some outstanding talent.

cbuckser

Quote from: ugarteIn looks like Sarnia has his rights but I found a Facebook page that I think is him (has references to Sarnia) and he appears to be a freshman at the University of Waterloo.
That is indeed him.
Craig Buckser '94

Swampy

Quote from: scoop85https://twitter.com/ushrhockey/status/435966410888450048

The staff certainly seems to be bringing in some outstanding talent.

Yeah. With recruiting targeting younger kids, which puts the Ivies at a disadvantage, it would be nice if Fiegl matured and decided Cornell was more to his liking than DU. Anyone know the story here?

Trotsky

Jared Fiegl
1/23/96
6' 1" 198
Parker, CO
USNDT U18

According to Elite Prospects and hockeydb he has played just 8 games this year.

Chris '03

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: scoop85https://twitter.com/ushrhockey/status/435966410888450048

The staff certainly seems to be bringing in some outstanding talent.

Yeah. With recruiting targeting younger kids, which puts the Ivies at a disadvantage, it would be nice if Fiegl matured and decided Cornell was more to his liking than DU. Anyone know the story here?

The coach who recruited him was fired, which probably explains the defection more than anything else.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Trotsky

Quote from: martyMet two sets of parents on Friday at the Onion game. I hope they are back tonight.

Racine from Ottawa has great parents that sat behind us. His uncle played goalie for Northeadtern, winning all American honours and the beanpot.
I hope Hunter Racine is considering Cornell.  He looks like a stud.

Interestingly, his uncle (Bruce) runs a goaltender academy attended by one Ryan Coon.

cbuckser

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyMet two sets of parents on Friday at the Onion game. I hope they are back tonight.

Racine from Ottawa has great parents that sat behind us. His uncle played goalie for Northeadtern, winning all American honours and the beanpot.
I hope Hunter Racine is considering Cornell.  He looks like a stud.

Interestingly, his uncle (Bruce) runs a goaltender academy attended by one Ryan Coon.
Hunter Racine has committed to Colgate.
Craig Buckser '94

ugarte

Quote from: cbuckser
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyMet two sets of parents on Friday at the Onion game. I hope they are back tonight.

Racine from Ottawa has great parents that sat behind us. His uncle played goalie for Northeadtern, winning all American honours and the beanpot.
I hope Hunter Racine is considering Cornell.  He looks like a stud.

Interestingly, his uncle (Bruce) runs a goaltender academy attended by one Ryan Coon.
Hunter Racine has committed to Colgate.
Stakes in the Union game were higher than we thought.

RatushnyFan

Quote from: SwampyYes, but BRPH lists him as 2015. Our very strong current class of juniors will have graduated by the time Chad arrives on the hill.

Among those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.

As we've seen this year with Matt Buckles, even extraordinary scorers take some time to adjust to the college game. So while the pipeline looks very good, and next year's team should be a serious contender for league and national honors, (and with no disrespect for the incoming class) I'm afraid the pipeline is not going to add a tremendous amount of firepower to the 2014-2015 team. OTOH, defensemen Bliss and Wedman may be able to help out significantly.
Putting stats from Delbarton and the AYHL U16 LI Gulls next to junior stats is apples and oranges in a big way.  Delbarton is a nice school with a nice hockey program (my son goes to Don Bosco, a league competitor that just beat Delbarton) but it doesn't compare to junior hockey.  I would guess that Otterman will need some seasoning at a junior program despite his draft ranking, he played for the Jersey Hitmen a little bit last year but he was young and wasn't really a factor.

billhoward

Quote from: RatushnyFan
Quote from: SwampyYes, but BRPH lists him as 2015. Our very strong current class of juniors will have graduated by the time Chad arrives on the hill.

Among those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.

As we've seen this year with Matt Buckles, even extraordinary scorers take some time to adjust to the college game. So while the pipeline looks very good, and next year's team should be a serious contender for league and national honors, (and with no disrespect for the incoming class) I'm afraid the pipeline is not going to add a tremendous amount of firepower to the 2014-2015 team. OTOH, defensemen Bliss and Wedman may be able to help out significantly.
Putting stats from Delbarton and the AYHL U16 LI Gulls next to junior stats is apples and oranges in a big way.  Delbarton is a nice school with a nice hockey program (my son goes to Don Bosco, a league competitor that just beat Delbarton) but it doesn't compare to junior hockey.  I would guess that Otterman will need some seasoning at a junior program despite his draft ranking, he played for the Jersey Hitmen a little bit last year but he was young and wasn't really a factor.
If you're a star for Delbarton lacrosse, you're a stud and probably headed D1. A couple Delbarton hockey alumni have done well in college. Not every player will be a star. Delbarton is the school for Chris Christie's kids.