Polls 2013-14

[Trotsky]

I love that in a week where we didn't play we managed to both rise and fall in the polls, respectively.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,151655,151669#msg-151669

Hence the both rise and fall part.

I have no objection to moving in the polls when you don't play.  It's moving in both directions that seems odd.

[billhoward]

I love that in a week where we didn't play we managed to both rise and fall in the polls, respectively.

One is the glass-half-full poll.

[Rosey]

I love that in a week where we didn't play we managed to both rise and fall in the polls, respectively.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,151655,151669#msg-151669

Hence the both rise and fall part.

I have no objection to moving in the polls when you don't play.  It's moving in both directions that seems odd.

Nonetheless, it has the same explanation: just different sets of morons trying to derive a total order from limited pairwise information.

[Jim Hyla]

I love that in a week where we didn't play we managed to both rise and fall in the polls, respectively.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,151655,151669#msg-151669

Hence the both rise and fall part.

I have no objection to moving in the polls when you don't play.  It's moving in both directions that seems odd.

Nonetheless, it has the same explanation: just different sets of morons trying to derive a total order from limited pairwise information.

You really think they pay attention to Pairwise, say nothing of KRACH? You do give them alot of credit.

[Rosey]

I love that in a week where we didn't play we managed to both rise and fall in the polls, respectively.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,151655,151669#msg-151669

Hence the both rise and fall part.

I have no objection to moving in the polls when you don't play.  It's moving in both directions that seems odd.

Nonetheless, it has the same explanation: just different sets of morons trying to derive a total order from limited pairwise information.

You really think they pay attention to Pairwise, say nothing of KRACH? You do give them alot of credit.

I hope this was a joke. "pairwise" with a lowercase 'p', meaning the results of games which are played between pairs of teams.

[KeithK]

I love that in a week where we didn't play we managed to both rise and fall in the polls, respectively.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,151655,151669#msg-151669

Hence the both rise and fall part.

I have no objection to moving in the polls when you don't play.  It's moving in both directions that seems odd.

Nonetheless, it has the same explanation: just different sets of morons trying to derive a total order from limited pairwise information.

You really think they pay attention to Pairwise, say nothing of KRACH? You do give them alot of credit.

I hope this was a joke. "pairwise" with a lowercase 'p', meaning the results of games which are played between pairs of teams.

It's different sets of individuals trying to make sense of the game results and their own preconceived notions.

Seriously though, I think many of the pollsters do look at the Pairwise. I think this is pretty clear late in the season when the polls start to converge toward the rankings.  Early on though they give less weight to the rankings and more to their own preconceived notions.  Which isn't necessarily a bad thing given the small sample size issues.

[Jim Hyla]

As far as I know this is the only poll out this week.

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 30, 2013
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (37) 12- 2-2 987 1
2 Ferris State ( 9) 14- 2-3 934 2
3 St. Cloud State ( 1) 11- 2-3 876 4
4 Providence ( 3) 13- 2-3 869 5
[b][u]5 Union        12- 3-3 769 6[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 12- 4-2 742 7
7 Michigan 10- 4-2 694 3
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 13- 3-4 667 8[/u][/b]
9 Massachusetts-Lowell 13- 5-0 642 10
[b][u]10 Yale         7- 3-3 486 11
11 Clarkson 12- 5-1 451 9[/u][/b]
12 Miami         9- 7-2 400 12
13 Wisconsin 10- 5-1 392 14
14 Notre Dame 10- 7-1 368 13
[b][u]15 Cornell         8- 4-3 328 15[/u][/b]
16 Denver        10- 6-3 198 17
17 Northeastern 10- 6-2 181 16
18 Lake Superior 10- 7-1 126 18
19 Nebraska-Omaha 8- 7-1 105 19
20 Vermont        10- 6-1 99 NR
Others receiving votes: Minnesota State 57, Maine 47, North Dakota 30,
[b][u]Rensselaer 22[/u][/b], Ohio State 12, Bentley 8, New Hampshire 7, Western Michigan 3.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2p0Anl5a5



[Josh '99]

As far as I know this is the only poll out this week.

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 30, 2013
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (37) 12- 2-2 987 1
2 Ferris State ( 9) 14- 2-3 934 2
3 St. Cloud State ( 1) 11- 2-3 876 4
4 Providence ( 3) 13- 2-3 869 5
[b][u]5 Union        12- 3-3 769 6[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 12- 4-2 742 7
7 Michigan 10- 4-2 694 3
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 13- 3-4 667 8[/u][/b]
9 Massachusetts-Lowell 13- 5-0 642 10
[b][u]10 Yale         7- 3-3 486 11
11 Clarkson 12- 5-1 451 9[/u][/b]
12 Miami         9- 7-2 400 12
13 Wisconsin 10- 5-1 392 14
14 Notre Dame 10- 7-1 368 13
[b][u]15 Cornell         8- 4-3 328 15[/u][/b]
16 Denver        10- 6-3 198 17
17 Northeastern 10- 6-2 181 16
18 Lake Superior 10- 7-1 126 18
19 Nebraska-Omaha 8- 7-1 105 19
20 Vermont        10- 6-1 99 NR
Others receiving votes: Minnesota State 57, Maine 47, North Dakota 30,
[b][u]Rensselaer 22[/u][/b], Ohio State 12, Bentley 8, New Hampshire 7, Western Michigan 3.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2p0Anl5a5



I find it curious that the poll published by The Official Newspaper You Find On The Floor Outside Every Hotel Room isn't done during the busiest travel period of the year.  :-}

(Or maybe Christmas/New Year's is tied with Thanksgiving, but still.)

[Jim Hyla]

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 06, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (42) 13- 2-3 989 1
2 St. Cloud State ( 8) 11- 2-3 922 3
3 Ferris State 15- 3-3 876 2
[b][u]4 Union        12- 3-3 823 5[/u][/b]
5 Boston College 13- 4-2 804 6
6 Providence 13- 3-4 763 4
[b][u]7 Quinnipiac 15- 3-4 715 8[/u][/b]
8 Michigan 10- 4-2 667 7
9 Massachusetts-Lowell 14- 5-1 637 9
[b][u]10 Yale         7- 3-4 495 10
11 Clarkson 12- 6-2 467 11
12 Cornell         8- 4-3 387 15[/u][/b]
13 Miami         9- 7-2 383 12
14 Wisconsin 11- 6-1 361 13
15 Notre Dame 10- 8-1 300 14
16 Northeastern 11- 6-3 254 17
17 Denver        10- 6-4 190 16
18 Vermont        10- 6-3 148 20
19 Lake Superior 11- 8-1 103 18
20 New Hampshire 12-10-1 71 NR
Others receiving votes: Minnesota State 36, Maine 27, Ohio State 24,
North Dakota 22, [b][u]Colgate 13[/u][/b], Nebraska-Omaha 11, Bentley 4, Air Force 3,
[b]Rensselaer 3[/b], Bowling Green 1, Western Michigan 1.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2pf154EdX

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1. Minnesota,  (34) 510   1
2. St. Cloud State, 454 4
3. Ferris State,    418 2
4. Boston College,  387 6
[b][u]5. Union,           361 7[/u][/b]
6. Providence,      349 5
[b][u]7. Quinnipiac,      314 8[/u][/b]
8. UMass Lowell,    287 10
9. Michigan,        273 3
[b][u]10. Yale,            173 11
11. Clarkson,        136 9
12. Cornell,         116 13[/u][/b]
13. Miami,           115 12
14. Wisconsin,        94 15
15. Notre Dame,       52 14

Others receiving votes: Northeastern, 16; Minnesota State, 9;
Vermont, 6; Denver, 5; New Hampshire, 3; [b][u]Colgate, 1[/u][/b]; Maine, 1.



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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 06, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 19- 1-0 150 1
2 Wisconsin 16- 2-2 134 2
[b][u]3 Cornell        12- 1-2 117 3[/u][/b]
4 North Dakota 12- 4-2 101 4
[b][u]5 Harvard        10- 1-2 87 5
6 Clarkson 14- 4-2 79 6[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 12- 4-2 64 7
8 Boston University 15- 3-1 41 8
9 Robert Morris 18- 3-1 28 10
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 14- 2-5 23 9[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst 1.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2pf32BrXo



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Rank    School                Last Week
1. Minnesota,   (19) 190   1
2. Wisconsin         170 2
[b][u]3. Cornell,          147 3
4. Harvard,          132 4[/u][/b]
5. North Dakota,     116 5
[b][u]6. Clarkson,          84 7[/u][/b]
7. Boston College,    79 6
8. Boston University, 55 8
[b][u]9. Quinnipiac,        39 9[/u][/b]
10. Robert Morris,     28 10

Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst, 1; Minnesota Duluth, 1.



[billhoward]

Up a position in both polls. Did the poll voters finally notice the Florida tournament results, or was it our whupping the Russian youths?

[Trotsky]

Up a position in both polls. Did the poll voters finally notice the Florida tournament results, or was it our whupping the Russian youths?

Wisco and Notre Dame both lost; they had been immediately in front of us.  Miami, the other team we jumped over, is really in a virtual tie with us.

I also have a feeling people are starting to look at the PWR now.

5 ECAC teams in the top 12 is outstanding!  I can only imagine the gnashing of western teeth if we wind up with that many teams in the tourney.  

[Jim Hyla]

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 13, 2014
Team     (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (48) 14- 2-3 997 1
2 Ferris State ( 1) 17- 3-3 935 3
3 St. Cloud State ( 1) 12- 3-3 865 2
4 Boston College 14- 4-3 853 5
[b][u]5 Quinnipiac 17- 3-5 819 7
6 Union        13- 4-3 760 4[/u][/b]
7 Providence 13- 5-4 642 6
[b][u]8 Yale         8- 3-4 613 10[/u][/b]
9 Wisconsin 13- 6-1 559 14
10 Massachusetts-Lowell 14- 6-1 546 9
11 Northeastern 13- 6-3 496 16
[b][u]12 Cornell         8- 4-3 436 12[/u][/b]
13 Michigan 10- 6-2 428 8
[b][u]14 Clarkson 13- 7-2 352 11[/u][/b]
15 Notre Dame 12- 8-1 345 15
16 Denver        11- 7-4 208 17
17 New Hampshire 13-10-1 148 20
18 Vermont        11- 7-3 143 18
19 Maine        11- 7-2 89 NR
20 North Dakota 11- 7-2 81 NR
Others receiving votes: Miami 75, Ohio State 40, Western Michigan 30,
[b][u]Colgate 18[/u][/b], Bowling Green 6, Lake Superior 6, Mercyhurst 5, Bentley 3, Air Force 2.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2qK3MxRe9



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Rank    School                  Last Week
1. Minnesota,  (33) 509   1
2. Ferris State,(1) 464   3
3. Boston College,  423 4
4. St. Cloud State, 420 2
[b][u]5. Quinnipiac,      377 7
6. Union,           342 5[/u][/b]
7. Providence,      259 6
[b][u]8. Yale,            240 10[/u][/b]
9. Wisconsin,       208 14
10. UMass Lowell,    197 8
11. Northeastern,    156 RV
[b][u]12. Cornell,         135 12[/u][/b]
13. Michigan,        132 9
[b][u]14. Clarkson,         86 11[/u][/b]
15. Notre Dame,       84 15

Others receiving votes: Denver, 19; New Hampshire, 13; Miami, 5;
Bowling Green, 3; North Dakota, 3; Vermont, 3; [b][u]Colgate, 1[/u][/b]; Minnesota Duluth, 1.

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Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team       PWR W-L-T   Win %  Rank RPI    Rank
1 Minnesota 58 14-2-3 .8022 1 .6053* 1
2 Boston College 57 14-4-3 .7549 5 .5955* 2
3 Ferris State 56 17-3-3 .8087 2 .5868* 3
[b][u]4 Quinnipiac 55 17-3-5 .7773 3 .5851* 4[/u][/b]
5 St. Cloud State 54 12-3-3 .7423 4 .5819* 5
[b][u]6t Union        52 13-4-3 .7184 6 .5684 6[/u][/b]
6t Northeastern 52 13-6-3 .6712 11 .5644* 7
8t Providence 50 13-5-4 .6776 8 .5630* 8
8t Mass-Lowell 50 14-6-1 .6792 7 .5563* 9
10 Wisconsin 49 13-6-1 .6588 9 .5555* 10
[b][u]11 Cornell        48 8-4-3 .6370 15 .5478 11
12 Yale        46 8-3-4 .6575 10 .5437* 13[/u][/b]
13 New Hampshire 45 13-10-1 .5630 26 .5453 12
[b][u]14t Clarkson 44 13-7-2 .6422 13t .5433 14[/u][/b]
14t Michigan 44 10-6-2 .6163 16 .5430 15
16 Notre Dame 43 12-8-1 .5714 19t .5414 16

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/#ixzz2qK5c3kmB



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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 13, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 20- 1-1 150 1
2 Wisconsin 17- 3-2 132 2
[b][u]3 Cornell        13- 1-3 118 3[/u][/b]
4 North Dakota 13- 5-2 104 4
[b][u]5 Clarkson 16- 4-2 86 6
6 Harvard        12- 2-2 75 5[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 14- 4-3 60 7
8 Robert Morris 18- 3-1 43 9
9 Boston University 16- 4-1 39 8
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 16- 3-5 14 10[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst 4.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2qK512EdU



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Rank School            Last Week
1. Minnesota, (19)   190   1
2. Wisconsin,        164 2
[b][u]3. Cornell,          155 3[/u][/b]
4. North Dakota,     125 5
[b][u]5. Harvard,          107 4
6. Clarkson,         103 6[/u][/b]
7. Boston College,    68 7
8. Robert Morris,     61 9
9. Boston University, 48 8
[b][u]10. Quinnipiac,        19 10[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst, 5



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Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T Win % Rank RPI Rank
1 Minnesota 12 20-1-1 .0000 1 .6677* 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        11 13-1-3 .0000 2 .6317* 2[/u][/b]
3 Wisconsin 10 17-3-2 .0000 4 .6260* 3
[b][u]4 Harvard        9 12-2-2 .0000 5 .6024* 4
5 Clarkson 8 16-4-2 .0000 7 .5973* 5[/u][/b]
6 Robert Morris 7 18-3-1 .0000 3 .5962* 6
7 North Dakota 6 13-5-2 .0000 11 .5932* 7
8 Boston Univ 5 16-4-1 .0000 6 .5855* 8
9 Boston College 4 14-4-3 .0000 10 .5775 9
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 3 16-3-5 .0000 8 .5701* 10[/u][/b]
11 Mercyhurst 2 14-6-3 .0000 12 .5471 11
12 Minnesota-Duluth1 11-8-3 .0000 13 .5374 12
[b][u]13 Princeton 0 9-8-3 .0000 14 .5132 13[/u][/b]

*Team's RPI has been adjusted to remove negative effect from defeating weak opponent.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz2qK6XI4Gt



[redice]

Not exactly a "Polls" item, but.....

I just stumbled across a Minnesota Goofers Vs. Penn State hockey game on BTN, Ch. 610 on DirecTV.

Since I have not yet seen PSU play, this interesting to me.   I plug my nose & tolerate the goofers...

1-0 Minnesota late in the first.    I suspect this game is not live but have no interest in looking for the outcome.

[billhoward]

Still 12th in the polls. We all were hoping for Cornell movement in the polls after the Lynah thaw. Would have been nice to see how a cancellation compares to a bye week for poll movement purposes.

[Jim Hyla]

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    USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 20, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (50) 17- 2-3 1000 1
2 Boston College 16- 4-3 941 4
[b][u]3 Union        15- 4-3 876 6
4 Quinnipiac 18- 4-5 799 5[/u][/b]
5 St. Cloud State 12- 4-4 767 3
6 Ferris State 17- 5-3 757 2
7 Providence 14- 5-5 731 7
8 Massachusetts-Lowell 15- 6-2 626 10
9 Wisconsin 13- 6-1 603 9
[b][u]10 Yale         9- 4-4 514 8[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 14- 7-3 461 11
[b][u]12 Cornell         9- 4-4 439 12
13 Clarkson 15- 7-2 404 14[/u][/b]
14 Michigan 10- 6-2 371 13
15 Notre Dame 14- 8-1 367 15
16 Denver        12- 7-5 252 16
17 Vermont        12- 8-3 172 18
18 North Dakota 12- 7-3 147 20
19 Western Michigan 12- 8-4 103 NR
20 Maine        11- 8-3 47 19
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate 35[/u][/b], Minnesota State 29, Air Force 20,
New Hampshire 17, Bowling Green 7, Nebraska-Omaha 4, Ohio State 4,
Bentley 3, Miami 2, Mercyhurst 1, Minnesota-Duluth 1.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2qyyV4VPH



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Rank School            Last Week
1. Minnesota,  (34) 51?   1
2. Boston College,  470 3
[b][u]3. Union,           413 6
4. Quinnipiac,      378 5[/u][/b]
5. St. Cloud State, 372 4
6. Ferris State,    367 2
7. Providence,      317 7
8. UMass Lowell,    238 10
9. Wisconsin,       235 9
[b][u]10. Yale,            168 8[/u][/b]
11. Northeastern,    162 11
[b][u]12. Cornell,         131 12
13. Clarkson,        120 14[/u][/b]
14. Michigan,         86 13
15. Notre Dame,       67 15

Others receiving votes: Denver, 18; North Dakota, 10; Western Michigan, 7;
Minnesota State, 4; Minnesota Duluth, 3; [b][u]Colgate, 2[/u][/b]; Air Force, 1; Vermont, 1.



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Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team       PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota 58 17-2-3 .8286 1 .6121* 1
2 Boston College 57 16-4-3 .7727 2 .5966* 2
[b][u]3 Quinnipiac 56 18-4-5 .7598 3 .5762* 3
4t Union        54 15-4-3 .7478 4 .5742* 4[/u][/b]
4t Ferris State 54 17-5-3 .7561 5 .5707 5
6t Providence 52 14-5-5 .6907 8 .5659* 6
6t Northeastern 52 14-7-3 .6488 14 .5626* 7
8 St. Cloud State 51 12-4-4 .6852 6 .5616 8
9 Mass-Lowell 50 15-6-2 .6783 7 .5567* 9
10 Wisconsin 49 13-6-1 .6588 9 .5521 10
11 Notre Dame 48 14-8-1 .6038 15 .5511* 11
[b][u]12t Clarkson 46 15-7-2 .6667 10t .5487 12
12t Cornell        46 9-4-4 .6607 12t .5473 13
14 Yale        45 9-4-4 .6506 12t .5430* 14[/u][/b]
15t Michigan 43 10-6-2 .6163 17 .5413 15
15t Vermont        43 12-8-3 .5752 19t .5386 16

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/#ixzz2qyzUx0Jd



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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 20, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 22- 1-1 150 1
2 Wisconsin 19- 3-2 135 2
3 North Dakota 15- 5-2 109 4
[b][u]4 Cornell        14- 2-3 105 3
5 Harvard        14- 2-2 89 6
6 Clarkson 17- 4-3 73 5[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 16- 4-3 61 7
8 Robert Morris 19- 3-2 57 8
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 16- 4-6 19 10[/u][/b]
10 Boston University 16- 6-1 17 9
Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst 10.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2qz00NjGc



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Rank School             Last Week
1. Minnesota,  (19)  190   1
2. Wisconsin,        171 2
[b][u]3. Cornell,          138 3[/u][/b]
4. North Dakota,     125 4
[b][u]5. Harvard,          124 5
6. Clarkson,          87 6[/u][/b]
7. Robert Morris,     78 8
8. Boston College,    73 7
9. Boston University, 25 9
[b][u]10. Quinnipiac,        24 10[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst, 10.



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Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank  RPI  RPI Rank
1 Minnesota 13 22-1-1 .0000 1 .6633* 1
2 Wisconsin 12 19-3-2 .0000 2t .6253* 2
[b][u]3 Cornell        11 14-2-3 .0000 5 .6205* 3
4 Harvard        10 14-2-2 .0000 2t .6159* 4[/u][/b]
5 Robert Morris 9 19-3-2 .0000 2t .5960* 5
6 North Dakota 8 15-5-2 .0000 10 .5956* 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 7 17-4-3 .0000 7 .5917* 7[/u][/b]
8 Boston College 6 16-4-3 .0000 8 .5826 8
9 Boston Univ 5 16-6-1 .0000 11 .5640 9
10 Mercyhurst 4 14-6-3 .0000 12 .5463 11
[b][u]11 Quinnipiac 3 16-4-6 .0000 9 .5624* 10[/u][/b]
12 Minn-Duluth 2 11-8-5 .0000 14 .5332 12
13 Princeton 1 9-8-3 .0000 15 .5125 13
14 Syracuse 0 12-9-2 .0000 13 .5053 14

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz2qz0Kcypt