2013 NCAA Lacrosse Tournament

[kingpin248]

(1) Syracuse v. Bryant
( Penn State v. Yale

(5) North Carolina v. Lehigh
(4) Denver v. Albany

(3) Ohio State v. Towson
(6) Maryland v. Cornell

(7) Duke v. Loyola
(2) Notre Dame v. Detroit

1/8 and 3/6 quarterfinals at College Park; 4/5 and 2/7 quarterfinals at Indianapolis.

[phillysportsfan]

How is UNC's seed not higher?

[phillysportsfan]

Damn we dont even get a home game

[ugarte]

this makes us the last team in, right?

[flyersgolf]

Reminds me of ncaa hockey seedings of years past.  Cornell dropped to the 10th seed. If you have the home field for your conference tournament you should win at least one game.  

UNC and Cornell demoted.

Ohio State got a bump up.

They said they used computer rankings to help with seeding.  I do not see much of that.




Projected braketology


Lacrosse Magazine

College Park

(1) BIG EAST/Syracuse vs. NORTHEAST/Bryant
( Cornell vs. Loyola

Indianapolis

(4) ECAC/Ohio State vs. PATRIOT/Lehigh
(5) Denver vs. Duke

College Park

(3) North Carolina vs. COLONIAL/Towson
(6) Maryland vs. AMERICA EAST/Albany

Indianapolis

(2) Notre Dame vs. METRO ATLANTIC/Detroit
(7) Penn State vs. IVY/Yale


Inside lacrosse

1. Syracuse (Big East)
Bryant (NEC)

8. Cornell
Albany (America East)

4. North Carolina
Towson (CAA)

Penn State
5. Ohio State

Yale (Ivy)
3. Denver (ECAC)

6. Maryland
Lehigh (Patriot League)

Loyola
7. Duke

Detroit (MAAC)
2. Notre Dame

[billhoward]

The sport of lacrosse is ascending. The ESPNU selection show is descending, run by a bunch of amateurs (drawing paychecks) with game video backing them up. The studio announcers had a chance to talk about who's likely to advance and Kessenich and Carcaterra don't say squat beyond that Syracuse, the No. 1 seed, has a favorable matchup. Well, yes, Bryant (Laxpower RPI 32) and Detroit (RPI 53) don't belong in the tournament except they won conference championships. Which may be for the good of lacrosse. I think one of them mentioned that Cornell and Loyola (also Lehigh (?)) might be tough competition in an aside.

The show brings on Bryant (fired Duke) coach Mike Pressler about the excitement of being in the show but, please, in fairness at least mention it wasn't "circumstances" it was a coach who lost control of his players off-field that got him fired. They bring on the NCAA selection committee head and don't drill him harder on whether a formulaic selection system misses getting the best teams in the tournament, or why No. 1 (polls) UNC is a 5-seed. The most he admitted to was that Bucknell was probably that the last team not to make it.

Quint Kessenich looks like a young Bob Costas. But if he wants to be the next Bob Costas, he has to step us his game. Otherwise he's going to top out covering college lacrosse and wrestling.

[billhoward]

I like Cornell and Albany to beat the higher seeds, maybe Lehigh over NC. The only two safe games are the 1-2 seeds, Syracuse over Bryant (although the Orange did lose to RPI-39 Hobart and Bryant is better than that at 32) and Notre Dame over Deroit (RPI 53 of 63).

(1) Syracuse v. Bryant <<< Syracuse
( Penn State v. Yale <<< pick 'em

(5) North Carolina v. Lehigh <<< Lehigh?
(4) Denver v. Albany <<< Albany

(3) Ohio State v. Towson <<< pick 'em, don't see either in the final four
(6) Maryland v. Cornell <<< Cornell

(7) Duke v. Loyola <<< pick 'em
(2) Notre Dame v. Detroit <<< disband the team if the Irish don't win; to save airfare Detroit buses to ND not flies to Syracuse
 
1/8 and 3/6 quarterfinals at College Park; 4/5 and 2/7 quarterfinals at Indianapolis.

[billhoward]

Apparently so (Cornell as last team in) since Loyola gets a lower-seeded opponent, No. 7 duke instead of No. 6 Maryland. Give or take E-W brackets, we are the 11 seed and 12-16 are AQ cannon fodder.

[billhoward]

How is UNC's seed not higher?

RPI has it Cornell, Maryland, NC as top three teams if I read it right

[phillysportsfan]

The sport of lacrosse is ascending. The ESPNU selection show is descending, run by a bunch of amateurs (drawing paychecks) with game video backing them up. The studio announcers had a chance to talk about who's likely to advance and Kessenich and Carcaterra don't say squat beyond that Syracuse, the No. 1 seed, has a favorable matchup. Well, yes, Bryant (Laxpower RPI 32) and Detroit (RPI 53) don't belong in the tournament except they won conference championships. Which may be for the good of lacrosse. I think one of them mentioned that Cornell and Loyola (also Lehigh (?)) might be tough competition in an aside.

The show brings on Bryant (fired Duke) coach Mike Pressler about the excitement of being in the show but, please, in fairness at least mention it wasn't "circumstances" it was a coach who lost control of his players off-field that got him fired. They bring on the NCAA selection committee head and don't drill him harder on whether a formulaic selection system misses getting the best teams in the tournament, or why No. 1 (polls) UNC is a 5-seed. The most he admitted to was that Bucknell was probably that the last team not to make it.

Quint Kessenich looks like a young Bob Costas. But if he wants to be the next Bob Costas, he has to step us his game. Otherwise he's going to top out covering college lacrosse and wrestling.

Yeah and they are obsessed with Hopkins, they wasted 5 minutes talking about Hopkins and interviewing Pietramala instead of talking about the teams actually in the tournament

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I think the nebulous "Strength of Schedule" burned us this year.  We played one top 5 team, and too many weak teams.  I understand we want to support NY state lax and keep travel costs down, but we need to pick some better teams if we want to be treated like a real program.  

That and with the exception of Denver, the seeds all show signs of Big Name School Bias.

[Trotsky]

They said they used computer rankings to help with seeding.  I do not see much of that.

If somebody keeps their objective criteria secret, they aren't using objective criteria.

[Towerroad]

With the first round loss in the Ivy tournament and the lack of games against what ended up being the cream of the crop I think we got the placing we deserved +/- 1.

I don't think we were ever going to draw Bryant/Detroit in the first round and there is a lot of parity among the balance of the field so we were going to have to beat somebody good to get to he second round so it might as well be Maryland.

[RichH]

With the first round loss in the Ivy tournament and the lack of games against what ended up being the cream of the crop I think we got the placing we deserved +/- 1.

I don't think we were ever going to draw Bryant/Detroit in the first round and there is a lot of parity among the balance of the field so we were going to have to beat somebody good to get to he second round so it might as well be Maryland.

Should we get by Maryland, I like the potential QF pairing over any of the others, too.

[billhoward]

With the first round loss in the Ivy tournament and the lack of games against what ended up being the cream of the crop I think we got the placing we deserved +/- 1.

I don't think we were ever going to draw Bryant/Detroit in the first round and there is a lot of parity among the balance of the field so we were going to have to beat somebody good to get to he second round so it might as well be Maryland.

Should we get by Maryland, I like the potential QF pairing over any of the others, too.

And fortunately our bracket plays the QF game at Maryland; I had thought our bracket was going to Indianapolis (since Mariucci Arena was not available to stuff Cornell in). The Cornell-Maryland winner gets the Towson-Ohio State winner in the QFs. The NCAA seeders have TOSU as the third best team in the country. http://insidelacrosse.com/sites/default/files/2013_DI_Bracket_Final.pdf