Ivy lax tournament 2013

[billhoward]

Cornell beats Brown, clinches Ivy League title, will host Ivy lax tournament, will be No. 1 seed.

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Pos     Team    GP      Ivy     Ivy Pct GF      GA              GP      Overall Pct     GG      GA      Last10  Streak
1 Cornell 5 5-0 1.000 70 39 13 11-2 0.846 186 108 8-2 Won 1
2 Prin'n 5 3-2 0.600 58 44 12 8-4 0.667 148 109 6-4 Won 1
2       Yale 5 3-2 0.600 44 41 12 8-4 0.667 125 97 7-3 Lost 1
4 Penn 6 3-3 0.500 50 40 11 7-4 0.636 101 82 6-4 Won 1
5 Harvard 5 2-3 0.400 44 52 13 6-7 0.462 122 129 5-5 Lost 1
6 Brown 5 1-4 0.200 37 58 12 6-6 0.500 124 120 5-5 Lost 1
6       D'mouth 5 1-4 0.200 28 57 12 3-9 0.250 92 129 2-8 Lost 1


Penn finishes at 3-3, Harvard can win its way in next week (I think) hosting Yale since it beat Penn in OT. If Cornell beats Princeton and Harvard beats Yale, then everybody finishes 3-3 except Cornell and Brown-Dartmouth. This is where all those second and third tiebreakers come in. A Yale win over Harvard, the field is Cornell, Princeton, Yale, Penn. Interesting question of who we'd most like to play in the first round.

Next week also Cornell-Princeton at Meadowlands, Brown-Dartmouth to decide the far end of the standings.

[Ben]

Are the semifinals going to be on Slope Day again?

[kingpin248]

Cornell beats Brown, clinches Ivy League title, will host Ivy lax tournament, will be No. 1 seed.

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Pos     Team    GP      Ivy     Ivy Pct GF      GA              GP      Overall Pct     GG      GA      Last10  Streak
1 Cornell 5 5-0 1.000 70 39 13 11-2 0.846 186 108 8-2 Won 1
2 Prin'n 5 3-2 0.600 58 44 12 8-4 0.667 148 109 6-4 Won 1
2       Yale 5 3-2 0.600 44 41 12 8-4 0.667 125 97 7-3 Lost 1
4 Penn 6 3-3 0.500 50 40 11 7-4 0.636 101 82 6-4 Won 1
5 Harvard 5 2-3 0.400 44 52 13 6-7 0.462 122 129 5-5 Lost 1
6 Brown 5 1-4 0.200 37 58 12 6-6 0.500 124 120 5-5 Lost 1
6       D'mouth 5 1-4 0.200 28 57 12 3-9 0.250 92 129 2-8 Lost 1


Penn finishes at 3-3, Harvard can win its way in next week (I think) hosting Yale since it beat Penn in OT. If Cornell beats Princeton and Harvard beats Yale, then everybody finishes 3-3 except Cornell and Brown-Dartmouth. This is where all those second and third tiebreakers come in. A Yale win over Harvard, the field is Cornell, Princeton, Yale, Penn. Interesting question of who we'd most like to play in the first round.

Next week also Cornell-Princeton at Meadowlands, Brown-Dartmouth to decide the far end of the standings.

In the hypothetical four-way tie, the six relevant games:
3/16: Penn def. Princeton
3/22: Princeton def. Yale
3/30: Yale def. Penn
4/13: Harvard def. Penn
4/19: Princeton def. Harvard
4/27: Harvard def. Yale (assumed)

Princeton and Harvard each 2-1; Yale and Penn each 1-2. Princeton and Yale win each of the respective ties on the single head-to-head result.

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   [b]Winners on April 27                  Tournament seeds, in order[/b]
Yale           Princeton                Cornell, Princeton, Yale, Penn
Yale           Cornell                  Cornell, Yale, Penn, Princeton
Harvard        Princeton                Cornell, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
Harvard        Cornell                  Cornell, Princeton, Harvard, Yale


Are the semifinals going to be on Slope Day again?

Yes. (But not in 2014 or beyond due to CU's academic calendar modifications.)

[kingpin248]

Finals: Cornell 17, Princeton 11; Yale 11, Harvard 10.

Friday's Ivy League tournament semifinals:
(3) Penn v. (2) Yale, 5 pm
(4) Princeton at (1) Cornell, 8 pm

[billhoward]

The attack really clicked at close range. From the stands it appeared Fiore played well. Princeton tossed a lot of passes out of bounds. So next weeks rematch could be closer. The important thing was Cornell did not collapse in second half. LGR

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I thought Fiore had an amazing first half.  He gave us the lead that we never gave up. But ESPNU gave Pannell the star of the game for his 5 goals, 4 assists.  Hard to argue with that.

We took a lot of stupid penalties that let Princeton make the game close in the 3rd.  We need to watch that next week.  ESPN also mentioned that Princeton had a lot of unforced errors.  This game could have been much closer if not for that.

[billhoward]

UNC beats upstart Virginia to win the ACC, 16-13. Virginia needed to win to get an NCAA berth, which would have knocked out at-large team since UNC and Maryland were going regardless. And it would have helped Cornell's SOS. Maybe Virginia's loss helps one extra Ivy team into the tournament as at at-large.

Lehigh whumps Bucknell to win the Patriot League. Bucknell probably goes as an at-large. Lehigh probably would not have.

After Saturday's Big City Classic, winners face losers in opening rounds of their tournament: Syracuse replays Notre Dame in the Big East (Thursday at Villanova), Cornell replays Princeton (Friday at Cornell).
Friday.

The 16-team field has 8 AQs and 8 at-larges.

American East Conference
Big East Conference
Colonial Athletic Conference
Eastern College Athletic Conference
Ivy League
Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
Northeast Conference
Patriot League

So unlike NCAA basketball where are lot of non-conference winners can go in the field of 64, here it's pretty snug. Qualification rules via laxpower http://www.laxpower.com/update13/binmen/ncaa_d1.php and their guess as to who's ranked highest as of Sunday evening:

http://www.laxpower.com/update13/binmen/ncaa_d1.php

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 No Team              Total  RPI   SOS   QW   RPI SOS QW   WRPI LRPI SW  SL   W  L   WLP

  1 Notre Dame        2.58  0.64  0.68  0.99   1   2   3   .547 .569  0   3  10  3  0.77
  2 Denver            2.57  0.63  0.66  1.00   2   5   1   .530 .600  0   2  11  3  0.79
  3 North Carolina    2.53  0.63  0.63  0.99   3  15   2   .535 .601  0   2  12  3  0.80
  4 Penn State        2.51  0.62  0.65  0.95   5   8   6   .520 .612  1   2  11  3  0.79
  5 Cornell           2.51  0.62  0.61  0.97   4  22   4   .516 .611  0   2  12  2  0.86
  6 Syracuse          2.50  0.61  0.64  0.96   6  11   5   .527 .551  2   3  11  3  0.79
  7 Ohio State        2.47  0.61  0.62  0.93  10  16   7   .499 .626  1   0  10  3  0.77
  8 Duke              2.47  0.60  0.66  0.92  11   4   8   .495 .622  2   1  11  5  0.69
  9 Loyola            2.42  0.61  0.63  0.89   9  14  10   .503 .615  0   1  11  3  0.79
 10 Lehigh            2.42  0.59  0.65  0.88  14  10  11   .490 .571  3   2  12  4  0.75
 11 Bucknell          2.41  0.61  0.66  0.87   8   3  12   .500 .562  1   3  12  4  0.75
 12 Maryland          2.40  0.61  0.61  0.91   7  23   9   .529 .586  0   2   9  3  0.75
 13 Penn              2.33  0.60  0.63  0.83  12  13  14   .527 .591  1   2   8  4  0.67
 14 Drexel            2.31  0.58  0.59  0.85  15  28  13   .489 .597  0   1  11  3  0.79
 15 Yale              2.30  0.59  0.63  0.80  13  12  15   .506 .591  1   2   9  4  0.69
 16 Princeton         2.25  0.56  0.65  0.76  18   7  18   .506 .584  2   1   8  5  0.62
 17 Albany            2.25  0.58  0.59  0.79  16  25  16   .492 .567  1   1  11  4  0.73
 18 Johns Hopkins     2.21  0.57  0.62  0.76  17  18  17   .490 .599  1   1   8  5  0.62
 19 Virginia          2.18  0.56  0.69  0.68  20   1  21   .474 .610  2   0   7  8  0.47
 20 St. John's        2.13  0.56  0.55  0.75  19  44  19   .501 .532  2   3   9  4  0.69
It appears this incluldes the UNC-VA and Bucknell-Lehigh games.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

So if we look at the conferences that don't have a top 16 seed, we get America East, MAAC and Northeast.  That says there's only 13 slots free for those on the list.  Give 3 of those to the ACC, and that leaves 10 others, 5 of which are autobids.  Those are:

Lehigh
Big East (currently Syracuse)
Ivy (hopefully us)
Colonial (Currently Penn State)
ECAC (Currently Denver)

So that means there are only 5 free spaces.

So with no upsets, you get Notre Dame, Ohio State, Loyola, Bucknell, and Penn as the other at-larges (with the ACC).

[Jim Hyla]

So if we look at the conferences that don't have a top 16 seed, we get America East, MAAC and Northeast.  That says there's only 13 slots free for those on the list.  Give 3 of those to the ACC, and that leaves 10 others, 5 of which are autobids.  Those are:

Lehigh
Big East (currently Syracuse)
Ivy (hopefully us)
Colonial (Currently Penn State)
ECAC (Currently Denver)

So that means there are only 5 free spaces.

So with no upsets, you get Notre Dame, Ohio State, Loyola, Bucknell, and Penn as the other at-larges (with the ACC).

Actually Villanova is the first seed, as they beat SU. It made for an interesting fact at the SU-ND game. If SU lost then ND would have been first and SU second. SU would then play Villanova in semis. With the win, SU is 2 and ND is 3, so they play in the semis. Shows what can happen with small leagues, as all lax are, and small number of games in the season. If SU's only chance to get to NCAAs was to win the Big East, then losing to ND might have been better.

[margolism]

I think the game in Ithaca will be a bit closer.  Princeton doesn't give up 17 goals very often.  According to the record books, including Saturday's game, only four times since 1989.  Last two times were to us (2005, 2013)

[billhoward]

I think the game in Ithaca will be a bit closer.  Princeton doesn't give up 17 goals very often.  According to the record books, including Saturday's game, only four times since 1989.  Last two times were to us (2005, 2013)

I could see these making Friday's rematch closer:
* Mock & co. don't crash the net for those quick stick goals
* No Cornell long stick breaks free for 2 goals
* Fiore reverts to the norm on save percentage
* Princeton needs an Ivy tournament title to be in the tournament
... or it may just be Cornell has the better team and Cornell matches up well against Princeton compared to against some other teams.

[billhoward]

Towson beats Penn State 11-10 Friday in CAA championship. Penn State should get an at-large bid, so that takes away an at-large from maybe one of the Ivy teams.

[nyc94]

Yale defeats Penn 9-6

[billhoward]

1st: Cornell 4, Princeton 3. Incredible behind the back goal by Mock. Princeton looking sharper than last week.

[Al DeFlorio]

1st: Cornell 4, Princeton 3. Incredible behind the back goal by Mock. Princeton looking sharper than last week.

Hogan, not Mock.