Quarterfinal rooting interests

Started by Chris '03, March 14, 2013, 10:17:30 AM

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Chris '03

There are a few ways to look at rooting interests for this weekend:

1. What give CU the best path to an ECAC title.

2. What gives CU the best (outside) shot at an at large bid. (mess around with that here: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php)

3. What gives the ECAC the best shot at 3-4 teams in.

Most frustrating for both 2 and 3 is that Dartmouth (19) and Union (16) can't both win or lose this weekend. It seems quite likely that the winner is in a decent at large position going into AC while the loser is pretty much finished.  

For Cornell, aside from the obvious, and substantial, work to be done in Hamden, is the best combination of winners RPI, SLU, Union?

For the ECAC, it helps most if a team locked into the tourney loses to open up a spot for a non-t-16 team to earn the bid.  That's probably only Q with Yale at 11 and RPI 14. ECAC's best possible outcome (knowing no other results) is probably: COR def QU, YU def SLU, DC def UC (in 3), RPI def. BU; COR def RPI, DC def YU; COR def DC, RPI def YU.  That gets you QU at large, Yale, Dartmouth, and RPI all probably in the mix between 10-16, and Cornell as the autobid (which could bump one of the other three).
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

css228

Quote from: Chris '03There are a few ways to look at rooting interests for this weekend:

1. What give CU the best path to an ECAC title.

2. What gives CU the best (outside) shot at an at large bid. (mess around with that here: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php)

3. What gives the ECAC the best shot at 3-4 teams in.

Most frustrating for both 2 and 3 is that Dartmouth (19) and Union (16) can't both win or lose this weekend. It seems quite likely that the winner is in a decent at large position going into AC while the loser is pretty much finished.  

For Cornell, aside from the obvious, and substantial, work to be done in Hamden, is the best combination of winners RPI, SLU, Union?

For the ECAC, it helps most if a team locked into the tourney loses to open up a spot for a non-t-16 team to earn the bid.  That's probably only Q with Yale at 11 and RPI 14. ECAC's best possible outcome (knowing no other results) is probably: COR def QU, YU def SLU, DC def UC (in 3), RPI def. BU; COR def RPI, DC def YU; COR def DC, RPI def YU.  That gets you QU at large, Yale, Dartmouth, and RPI all probably in the mix between 10-16, and Cornell as the autobid (which could bump one of the other three).
How about we only focus on the enormous upset that we'll need to beat Q in a multigame series. If we can beat Q (which I don't think we wil), we can beat anyone left, and to me it does't really matter who is left. If we have to root for other teams, then obviously root for lower seeds. But first things first.

upprdeck

interesting to play with the results.. change just the maine game and win one of the Denver games and we are in.. win both denver game and the princ home game and we are top 6..
sweeping Quin gets us pretty close though but is it possible to only win 1 of 2 in the ECAC final 4 and stay that close probably not unless also beating someone like Yale helps that much and the loss is to the right team.

Trotsky

Quote from: css228If we can beat Q ... we can beat anyone left
This is the key.  It stands for not only the ECACs but the NCAAs.  Defeating the #1 on their home ice twice would put a new face on this season.

KeithK

Quote from: css228How about we only focus on the enormous upset that we'll need to beat Q in a multigame series. If we can beat Q (which I don't think we wil), we can beat anyone left, and to me it does't really matter who is left. If we have to root for other teams, then obviously root for lower seeds. But first things first.
Because it might be fun to look at all of the possibilities?  It's not like any lack of focus by the folks here is going to hurt the team's chances of winning this weekend.

Jordan 04

Quote from: css228If we can beat Q... we can beat anyone left

This is the team that recently tied Brown at home, and lost to Harvard, right?

Why can't we beat them?  As is always the case in the league, anybody can beat anybody left, without it being too much of a surprise.

Rita

College hockey tourney quarterfinal action gets underway tonight with Maine @ UMass-Lowell.

Here is the online information from the Maine website (implies free audio from GoBlackBears):

Radio/TV: The games will be broadcast on the Black Bear Sports Radio Network 94.5FM and on GoBlackBears.com. Check out GoBlackBears.com for a complete list of radio affiliates. The Hockey East TV schedule has not been announced yet. Video streaming is available for a fee through the Hockey East website.
 
UM-Lowell uses our friends at Sidearm Sports and here is what they have posted.
Lowell, Mass. Tsongas Center GAME PREVIEW Radio: WUML 91.5 FM, WCAP AM 980

RichH

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Quote from: css228How about we only focus on the enormous upset that we'll need to beat Q in a multigame series. If we can beat Q (which I don't think we wil), we can beat anyone left, and to me it does't really matter who is left. If we have to root for other teams, then obviously root for lower seeds. But first things first.
Because it might be fun to look at all of the possibilities?  

No! I demand that every thread on RedCast Forum deteriorate into a bitch-session about RedCast. Why waste our energy talking about interesting hockey things in the non-streaming world?  :-D

Trotsky

Quote from: KeithKIt's not like any lack of focus by the folks here is going to hurt the team's chances of winning this weekend.
Twenty years of rooting for this team and you still don't know how it works?


Trotsky

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Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: css228How about we only focus on the enormous upset that we'll need to beat Q in a multigame series. If we can beat Q (which I don't think we wil), we can beat anyone left, and to me it does't really matter who is left. If we have to root for other teams, then obviously root for lower seeds. But first things first.
Because it might be fun to look at all of the possibilities?  

No! I demand that every thread on RedCast Forum deteriorate into a bitch-session about RedCast. Why waste our energy talking about interesting hockey things in the non-streaming world?  :-D

Jerk.

RichH

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Quote from: RichH
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: css228How about we only focus on the enormous upset that we'll need to beat Q in a multigame series. If we can beat Q (which I don't think we wil), we can beat anyone left, and to me it does't really matter who is left. If we have to root for other teams, then obviously root for lower seeds. But first things first.
Because it might be fun to look at all of the possibilities?  

No! I demand that every thread on RedCast Forum deteriorate into a bitch-session about RedCast. Why waste our energy talking about interesting hockey things in the non-streaming world?  :-D

Jerk.

Typical.

(Sorry, I'm contractually obligated. Continue.)

Trotsky

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: css228How about we only focus on the enormous upset that we'll need to beat Q in a multigame series. If we can beat Q (which I don't think we wil), we can beat anyone left, and to me it does't really matter who is left. If we have to root for other teams, then obviously root for lower seeds. But first things first.
Because it might be fun to look at all of the possibilities?  

No! I demand that every thread on RedCast Forum deteriorate into a bitch-session about RedCast. Why waste our energy talking about interesting hockey things in the non-streaming world?  :-D

Jerk.

Typical.

(Sorry, I'm contractually obligated. Continue.)

Heretic.

The canonical response is:

Typical :-|

RichH

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Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: css228How about we only focus on the enormous upset that we'll need to beat Q in a multigame series. If we can beat Q (which I don't think we wil), we can beat anyone left, and to me it does't really matter who is left. If we have to root for other teams, then obviously root for lower seeds. But first things first.
Because it might be fun to look at all of the possibilities?  

No! I demand that every thread on RedCast Forum deteriorate into a bitch-session about RedCast. Why waste our energy talking about interesting hockey things in the non-streaming world?  :-D

Jerk.

Typical.

(Sorry, I'm contractually obligated. Continue.)

Heretic.

The canonical response is:

Typical :-|

Wrong smiley. ::rolleyes::

css228

Quote from: Jordan 04
Quote from: css228If we can beat Q... we can beat anyone left

This is the team that recently tied Brown at home, and lost to Harvard, right?

Why can't we beat them?  As is always the case in the league, anybody can beat anybody left, without it being too much of a surprise.
Because we take a lot of idiotic penalties and our penalty kill sucks? Because we only have one dangerous offensive line? Because we lose the neutral zone with regularity? Because our power play is anemic? I don't know, pick a reason. We have to beat them twice at home in three games when they have a +6 goal differential against us. That seems likely...

Robb

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Quote from: Jordan 04
Quote from: css228If we can beat Q... we can beat anyone left

This is the team that recently tied Brown at home, and lost to Harvard, right?

Why can't we beat them?  As is always the case in the league, anybody can beat anybody left, without it being too much of a surprise.
Because we take a lot of idiotic penalties and our penalty kill sucks? Because we only have one dangerous offensive line? Because we lose the neutral zone with regularity? Because our power play is anemic? I don't know, pick a reason. We have to beat them twice at home in three games when they have a +6 goal differential against us. That seems likely...
Yeah, well, going into Lake Placid in 1980, the Soviets had a +7 differential on the US team - in one game....  :)
Let's Go RED!