Wallowing

Started by Trotsky, March 04, 2013, 08:37:13 AM

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Trotsky

Since we're bound to do it, we should at least do it right:

Tied for second-longest conference losing streak (7) ever.

The GFA and GAA lines, and consequently the ratio of Cornell goals in ECAC games, cross into the bad lands for the first time in 15 years.

Worst RS finish in 20 years, and the 4-year moving average is falling through the floor.  Only two finishes (1984 12th, 1993 11th) were worse over the last 48 years, despite more than a third of that time with 17 teams in the conference.

First time with more 0-point weekends than 4-point weekends since 2000.

Most disappointing finish vs Coaches Poll since... maybe ever.  At least as long as I have records for.

Tied for fourth-lowest conference winning percentage (.432), behind only 1984 (.429), 1987 (.364), and 1993 (.250).

Second ECAC losing record at Lynah of Schafer era.

Tied for second-lowest Cornell record in the Ivies (2-6-2 .300) in 50 years.

First majority "cold" season in Schafer era.

Scersk '97

You know, with Princeton winning in overtime by pulling their goalie after taking a timeout to digest the game scores, I bet Clarkson feels a bit like we did in 1995.  Why, oh why, can't we go back to pre-telegraph communication!  

Puck Frinceton for their gamesmanship and chicanery.  And screw Harvard for not coming through when we needed them to.  They both well and truly suck.  Harvard doubly so.

Trotsky

Rationalizing is just down the hall.  This is Wallowing.


andyw2100

Quote from: Scersk '97You know, with Princeton winning in overtime by pulling their goalie after taking a timeout to digest the game scores, I bet Clarkson feels a bit like we did in 1995.  Why, oh why, can't we go back to pre-telegraph communication!  

Puck Frinceton for their gamesmanship and chicanery.  And screw Harvard for not coming through when we needed them to.  They both well and truly suck.  Harvard doubly so.

So the three-way tie that would have resulted between Cornell, Princeton, and Clarkson had Princeton tied Harvard would have seen us win the tie-breaker and finish 8? Assuming that is the case, you've got to give a heck of a lot of credit to the Princeton coaching staff for getting that information and acting on it. I might go so far as to call it gamesmanship, but I certainly wouldn't call is chicanery.

andyw2100

Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Scersk '97You know, with Princeton winning in overtime by pulling their goalie after taking a timeout to digest the game scores, I bet Clarkson feels a bit like we did in 1995.  Why, oh why, can't we go back to pre-telegraph communication!  

Puck Frinceton for their gamesmanship and chicanery.  And screw Harvard for not coming through when we needed them to.  They both well and truly suck.  Harvard doubly so.

So the three-way tie that would have resulted between Cornell, Princeton, and Clarkson had Princeton tied Harvard would have seen us win the tie-breaker and finish 8? Assuming that is the case, you've got to give a heck of a lot of credit to the Princeton coaching staff for getting that information and acting on it. I might go so far as to call it gamesmanship, but I certainly wouldn't call is chicanery.

My thought that Cornell would have won the tie-breaker in a 3-way tie made no sense to me upon further reflection, since Cornell lost to Princeton twice and to Clarkson once. So I dug a little deeper, and I now believe Clarkson would have taken eighth had there been a 3-way tie. So my comment on Princeton's coaching is still valid, but I believe Clarkson, not Cornell, was the victim of their gamesmanship.

Dafatone

Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Scersk '97You know, with Princeton winning in overtime by pulling their goalie after taking a timeout to digest the game scores, I bet Clarkson feels a bit like we did in 1995.  Why, oh why, can't we go back to pre-telegraph communication!  

Puck Frinceton for their gamesmanship and chicanery.  And screw Harvard for not coming through when we needed them to.  They both well and truly suck.  Harvard doubly so.

So the three-way tie that would have resulted between Cornell, Princeton, and Clarkson had Princeton tied Harvard would have seen us win the tie-breaker and finish 8? Assuming that is the case, you've got to give a heck of a lot of credit to the Princeton coaching staff for getting that information and acting on it. I might go so far as to call it gamesmanship, but I certainly wouldn't call is chicanery.

I believe the three way tie actually had us in 10th.  But had Harvard won the game, we'd be in 8th.  I think Princeton finished 9th in the three way tie, 8th with a win, and I have no idea really, probably 10th, with a loss?

Jordan 04

No doubt what the Princeton coaches did was very smart. Great move, that many would not make.

BMac

I got really excited reading the USCHO blog story that said we were going to Providence, but they're wrong. Princeton. Womp womp.

KeithK

Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Scersk '97You know, with Princeton winning in overtime by pulling their goalie after taking a timeout to digest the game scores, I bet Clarkson feels a bit like we did in 1995.  Why, oh why, can't we go back to pre-telegraph communication!  

Puck Frinceton for their gamesmanship and chicanery.  And screw Harvard for not coming through when we needed them to.  They both well and truly suck.  Harvard doubly so.

So the three-way tie that would have resulted between Cornell, Princeton, and Clarkson had Princeton tied Harvard would have seen us win the tie-breaker and finish 8? Assuming that is the case, you've got to give a heck of a lot of credit to the Princeton coaching staff for getting that information and acting on it. I might go so far as to call it gamesmanship, but I certainly wouldn't call is chicanery.
It was chicanery!  And the worst kind too!  It was completely unsportsmanlike and any good sports fan should be outraged!

(This is a wallowing thread. No good sportsmanship here.)

CowbellGuy

The ELynah Twitter feed had you covered on this. Princeton win = 10th, tie = 9th, Harvard win = 8th. If Harvard didn't suck and scored an empty-netter, you'd be singing a different tune.
"[Hugh] Jessiman turned out to be a huge specimen of something alright." --Puck Daddy

Trotsky

Quote from: CowbellGuyThe ELynah Twitter feed had you covered on this. Princeton win = 10th, tie = 9th, Harvard win = 8th. If Harvard didn't suck and scored an empty-netter, you'd be singing a different tune.

That should be: tie = 10th, Princeton win = 9th, Harvard win = 8th.

Which was why it was so weird.

RichH

Quote from: Scersk '97You know, with Princeton winning in overtime by pulling their goalie after taking a timeout to digest the game scores, I bet Clarkson feels a bit like we did in 1995.  Why, oh why, can't we go back to pre-telegraph communication!  

Puck Frinceton for their gamesmanship and chicanery.  And screw Harvard for not coming through when we needed them to.  They both well and truly suck.  Harvard doubly so.

I learned long ago to never trust Harvard to do anything to help us.

The ECAC Hockey site has the (choppy) video. Of entertainment value is the initial bafflement of the Harvard broadcasters regarding the move. Also seeing Harvard take a full-ice shot at an empty net and then get scored upon following the resulting icing call. Again.

http://www.ecachockey.com/men/video/2012-13/20130203_Harvard_Princeton-desktop

CowbellGuy

In the Harvard broadcasters' defense, apparently the internet was down for most or all of the game so they had no idea what was going on elsewhere in the league. In their nondefense, there are these things called smartphones...
"[Hugh] Jessiman turned out to be a huge specimen of something alright." --Puck Daddy

Scersk '97

Yes, Clarkson surely felt screwed...  which was my point beyond wallowing about the only football wallow that I can wallow in, which caused me to hate Princeton.

Such was the quality of my thoughts, i.e., non-specific, misdirected, blind wallowing.  I was just reconnecting with the moment my distaste for Princeton truly flowered.

Ben

Quote from: Scersk '97Yes, Clarkson surely felt screwed...
Why? Because Princeton's coaches did their jobs and tried to win a hockey game?