2013 ECAC Playoff Permutations

[Give My Regards]

Princeton and Cornell can both clinch 9th place on their own if they sweep?

That seems, um, counterintuitive.

Not really.  It means it's the lowest they can finish.  They can always finish higher, and indeed one of them would.

More specifically, if Princeton sweeps, it doesn't affect anyone all that near them in the standings, while if Cornell sweeps, it would mean that they defeated Brown, and that would knock Brown behind Cornell (and Princeton, if they also swept).

[Jim Hyla]

Here are the newspaper articles:

Cornell Daily Sun

Ithaca Journal

[Trotsky]

So, tonight's rooting interest.  

Case 1: aiming for home ice, 1R  (doable)

Cornell (17) at Brown (18)
Princeton (17) at Dartmouth (21)
Quinnipiac (35) at Harvard (12) (we don't care, call it a tie)
Clarkson (19) at RPI (23)
St. Lawrence (22) at Union (20)
Colgate (15) at Yale (21)

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Standings if all results held:

01 36 Qpc
02 25 RPI
03 24 SLU
04 23 Drt
.. 23 Yal
06 20 Uni
07 19 Clk
.. 19 Cor
09 18 Brn
10 17 Prn
11 15 Col
12 13 Hvd



 

Case 2: aiming for home ice, QF  (incredible long shot)

Cornell (17) at Brown (18)
Princeton (17) at Dartmouth (21)
Quinnipiac (35) at Harvard (12) (we don't care, call it a tie)
Clarkson (19) at RPI (23)
St. Lawrence (22) at Union (20)
Colgate (15) at Yale

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Standings if all results held:

01 36 Qpc
02 25 RPI
03 24 SLU
04 21 Drt
.. 21 Yal
06 20 Uni
07 19 Clk
.. 19 Cor
.. 19 Prn
10 18 Brn
11 17 Col
12 13 Hvd


[Trotsky]

With the win tonight, Cornell now remarkably has as many wins (4) in their last 5 conference games as in their first 16.

[Scersk '97]

Well, it's clear what the rooting interest of the Dartmouth announcers is.  Boy...  they're horrible.  Still 2–2, heading to overtime, Dartmouth on the kill.

[Al DeFlorio]

Looks like Yale beat Colgate with 3 seconds left in OT.

[Scersk '97]

Final, 2–2.  Not the best of results, not the worst of results.

[Trotsky]

Final, 2–2.  Not the best of results, not the worst of results.

Pretty darn close to optimal overall though:

Case 1: aiming for home ice, 1R (doable)

Cornell won (yay)
Princeton did not win (yay)
Clarkson lost (yay)
Colgate did not win (yay)

[Scersk '97]

Right, considering that SLU tanked against Union, it wasn't going to break our way for the home run.  Yet, it would have been nice to have a 6th-place target instead of a "defense" of 7th.  And I would've preferred a Dartmouth win, of course.

If everything works out, I'm hoping for Princeton for a first-round opponent.  After the last game, I think it's clear that we match up well vs. them, and it's very difficult to beat a team three times in a row.  In my mind, I see the next game as ours, particularly at home.

[snert1288]

Not to anger any woofing gods, but I would not mind seeing Brown either.

[French Rage]

Last year we wanted Dartmouth in the first round, and they took us into 2OT in one game, and Harvard in the semis, who beat us bad.  The team we kept saying we didn't want, Colgate, we ended up beating.  If we want to keep going, we just gotta win, regardless of who we play.

[Trotsky]

Based on John's great script:

Ignoring ties

Cornell wins:
> All scenarios: 7th

Cornell loses:
> Clarkson L, Brown L, Princeton L: 7th
> Clarkson W, Brown L, Princeton L: 8th
> Clarkson L, Brown W, Princeton L: 8th
> Clarkson L, Brown L, Princeton W: 8th
> Clarkson W, Brown W, Princeton L: 9th
> Clarkson W, Brown L, Princeton W: 10th
> Clarkson L, Brown W, Princeton W: 9th
> Clarkson W, Brown W, Princeton W: 10th

[Chris '03]

Based on John's great script:

Ignoring ties

Cornell wins:
> All scenarios: 7th

Cornell loses:
> Clarkson L, Brown L, Princeton L: 7th
> Clarkson W, Brown L, Princeton L: 8th
> Clarkson L, Brown W, Princeton L: 8th
> Clarkson L, Brown L, Princeton W: 8th
> Clarkson W, Brown W, Princeton L: 9th
> Clarkson W, Brown L, Princeton W: 10th
> Clarkson L, Brown W, Princeton W: 9th
> Clarkson W, Brown W, Princeton W: 10th

So, barring ties, two of three need to lose for Cornell to get home ice if they take zero points at Yale.

 At least we'll know the Brown result by the game time at Yale. If Brown wins, we need for losses for both PU and CK. If Brown loses, we still need one other loss for Cornell to clinch home ice.

[Trotsky]

The tiebreakers vs top 4 will depend (obviously) on who is top 4.  The ECAC site has concise table showing H2H.

In the table below, read across for record of row vs col.  An * is a meeting tonight.

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          35 Qpc   25 RPI   23 Yal   22 Uni   22 SLU   22 Drt
19 Cor     0-2      1-1      0-1*     2-0      1-1      1-0-1
19 Clk     0-2      0-2      1-1      1-0*     1-0-1    1-1
18 Prn     0-2      1-0-1    0-2      0-1-1    0-1-1    1-0-1
18 Brn     0-0-2    0-1-1    1-1      0-1-1    0-1-1    0-2



Tonight's rooting interests:

Cor at Yal: Cornell.  Duh, but in addition to our result, giving Yale even a point hurts us vs Clk and Brn.
Col at Brn: Colgate.
SLU at RPI: RPI helps us vs Clk and hurts vs Prn.  SLU helps vs Prn and hurts vs Clk.  vs Brn it's a wash.
Clk at Uni: Union.  In addition to the primary result against Clk, Union helps us with all comparisons.
Qpc at Drt: Dartmouth.  Dartmouth helps us vs Clk and Brn.
Prn at Hvd: Harvard.

[Jim Hyla]

We're now tied for 22 in PWR. With a strong showing by getting to AC, I think there is still a chance of an At-Large bid, maybe?